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Psychedelic scientist sends brains back to childhood

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DISCLAIMER: all advice given here is given under the assumption that you did your research, and that you have good reasons why you're interested in psychedelics as a tool. They're a powerful tool, and powerful tools cut both ways. Turning into a new age woo head is a real risk, I've seen it happen to the staunchest of sceptics, no one is immune. Do your research, people, test your drugs, and be careful. I think this…

So you are convinced the real benefits lie in macro and not micro?

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#32
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of the psychedelic research I've seen boils down to "take psychedelics and do stuff to get a result, here's why you get the result". You can absolutely take psychedelics and do stuff yourself.

But what stuff to do?

I'd say just do them and come up with stuff to do. There are many of non-science forums on psychedelics, and you can quickly get the general idea how they can help you. But if you want to be sciency about it, read the aforementioned journals and do the "stuff" they describe yourself. Compared to experimental compounds, many are very easy (and often legal) to obtain. (but probably not legal to possess)

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#33

DISCLAIMER: all advice given here is given under the assumption that you did your research, and that you have good reasons why you're interested in psychedelics as a tool. They're a powerful tool, and powerful tools cut both ways. Turning into a new age woo head is a real risk, I've seen it happen to the staunchest of sceptics, no one is immune. Do your research, people, test your drugs, and be careful. I think this…

So you are convinced the real benefits lie in macro and not micro?

Yes. I should have specified that. Rare, larger doses.

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#34

DISCLAIMER: all advice given here is given under the assumption that you did your research, and that you have good reasons why you're interested in psychedelics as a tool. They're a powerful tool, and powerful tools cut both ways. Turning into a new age woo head is a real risk, I've seen it happen to the staunchest of sceptics, no one is immune. Do your research, people, test your drugs, and be careful. I think this…

> I felt smarter, and overall pretty great. I felt like I was making all these brilliant connections.

And here I thought the whole point of micro-dosing is the dose is too small to feel anything at all.

AIUI what you're calling microdosing is still in the realm of macrodosing, and no shit your working memory and time management was affected. What you were feeling were low-key hallucinations.

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#35

There is so much psychedelic research happening right now. But when will it reach patients outside of trials?

I just acquire mushrooms on my own and discuss the trips with my psychiatrist. He’s always quite enthusiastic about it and I’ve found them to be very helpful.

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#36
post #14

I use LSD for similar reasons. I actually ordered a lifetime supply of acid and got into big trouble from that. Really good stuff, makes me joyous.

How do you keep a lifetime supply of LSD? Isn't it an unstable molecule with a limited shelf life?

Someone accidentally tripped on LSD while cleaning a vintage synth from the 60s

https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/1960s-rock-music-s...

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post #34

DISCLAIMER: all advice given here is given under the assumption that you did your research, and that you have good reasons why you're interested in psychedelics as a tool. They're a powerful tool, and powerful tools cut both ways. Turning into a new age woo head is a real risk, I've seen it happen to the staunchest of sceptics, no one is immune. Do your research, people, test your drugs, and be careful. I think this…

> I felt smarter, and overall pretty great. I felt like I was making all these brilliant connections. And here I thought the whole point of micro-dosing is the dose is too small to feel anything at all. AIUI what you're calling microdosing is still in the realm of macrodosing, and no shit your working memory and time management was affected. What you were feeling were low-key hallucinations.

Sure, I tried doses that literally didn't do anything, but they literally didn't do anything. There was no magical functional in between land there. It was either nothing at all, or very slight lift in mood and significant side effects, especially as it went on for days.

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post #8

"There is, of course, a catch. For mice, having a critical period open for too long causes neural disruptions. Some experts fear that, for people, carelessly flinging wide the doors of personal development could put the very core of their identity in jeopardy by erasing the habits and memories that make them them. A critical period is also a time of vulnerability. While childhood can be filled with wonder and magic,…

Sounds like the reason why there's a backlash against exposing kids to all of these controversial topics in the "culture wars" in the West.

Can you expand on this? I find it hard to understand what similarities you see to what children today are being “exposed” to and Charles Manson drugging people with LSD and convincing them to kill other people.

Re: Psychedelic scientist sends brains back to childhood

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post #8

"There is, of course, a catch. For mice, having a critical period open for too long causes neural disruptions. Some experts fear that, for people, carelessly flinging wide the doors of personal development could put the very core of their identity in jeopardy by erasing the habits and memories that make them them. A critical period is also a time of vulnerability. While childhood can be filled with wonder and magic,…

Sounds like the reason why there's a backlash against exposing kids to all of these controversial topics in the "culture wars" in the West.

I think you're right.

On one side, you see adults who believe that sexuality and cross-gender identification are immutable, or at least practically immutable. Their goal is to expose e.g. heterosexual kids to the idea that some of their peers will be different from them so that they aren't shocked and scandalized by it later, then lash out unfairly as a result of prejudice against the unknown.

On the other side, you see adults who equate deviations from acceptable expressions of sexuality and gender - you don't see many conservatives boycotting national brands over young boys at hooters or child beauty pageants featuring little girls - as being inherently obscene. They naturally want to protect children from what they see as obscene and abnormal.

They both believe that they have children's best interests at heart.

That said, based on all available data, it seems like sexuality and gender identification are mostly immutable and that truth will slowly win out in the end. For example, nearly every conservative has met a little boy who acted remarkably girlish since toddlerhood and grew up to be gay unsurprisingly. Seeing that process play out, then claiming that gayness is a social contagion requires cognitive dissonance.

It's a part of the process of social change.... The last huge wave of homophobia that had legal consequences was in the 1970's and was led by a group called "Save the Children" -- it's all just the same dynamics repeating, except today it's more-so around broader gender norms, as opposed to a narrow focus on "men sleep with women". This video does a great job of laying it out through that sort of lens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6qUxa30SFA

Re: Psychedelic scientist sends brains back to childhood

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post #14

I use LSD for similar reasons. I actually ordered a lifetime supply of acid and got into big trouble from that. Really good stuff, makes me joyous.

I refuse to take any despite wanting to. I have thoughts on how it works, at a not physical realm. What makes you flip bit to joyous? What chemical or physical or physiological change happens? Does it wear off? I'm not depressed. I was at one point and found the solution. I have extensive joy. Yet I want to try because I think it does something that isn't the same bit flip you're experiencing.

At normal doses (What is does is exactly what the article explains - it unlocks the inner child in you. You will be curious about everything, everyday objects will suddenly become interesting as if you saw them for the first time. Your senses might become connected, some people “see” music with their eyes closed for example. It will make your mind go places that it normally rarely or never visits and you’ll be able to think about stuff from angles you didn’t pay attention to before.

It is a very powerful and useful tool if used correctly.

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