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Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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I urge you to read it again with the newfound knowledge that, now three times without any attempt at course adjustment, you've so far been misconstruing it. Sidebar on preventing this kind of situation in the future: asking questions clears confusion faster than repeating the same mistaken statements again after learning that they're mistaken.

At this point I can only assume you are gaslighting. You keep accusing me of claiming a falsehood, even when I quote your very own words, and you make no attempt to actually explain your own words. I don’t take kindly to gaslighting. This conversation is finished.

Four times. I can't (won't?) help a person who doesn't ask clarifying questions about things they don't understand and instead just digs their heels into the ground dying on the fallow hill of "I never misunderstand anything, so you must have meant this thing you did not say, and here let me blandly quote this thing I did not understand without asking any clarifying questions about it to address my misunderstanding".

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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post #334

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He also claimed most mods don't use 3rd party apps: > Huffman said 97% of Reddit users do not use any third-party apps to browse the site. He said "the vast majority" of moderators also do not rely on third-party apps.

The big issue is you can hide a lot in statements like that. I can't find super trustworthy numbers (and I can't verify this due to that), but if there are about 3.4m subs and only 140k of them are active, every single active sub could have a mod that uses a 3rd party app and you could still claim "the vast majority" don't use them. I also find it fairly interesting he would quote a percentage for users, but not for…

Yeah there's a lot of different ways to count something like that to get the result you want. Torture the numbers and they will confess.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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post #547
post #538

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As opposed to not having those social connections?

As opposed to recognizing these problems ahead of time, and instead creating a (public?) system for forming these social networks that doesn't need to monetize. One that wouldn't be corrupted by the needs for ever-increasing profits. I don't mean for that system to necessarily be a full replacement for the social networks we have now, but I'd argue there's room for something like a public alternative to them.

Free systems always excited and and continue to do so. Commit to them. Correct the mistake. If committing to them doesn't fix the mistake, then the choice was to have the social connections you wanted or not to. And given those choices, and what you want, choosing social media isn't a mistake.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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post #579

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It would probably be a great time to try and hop in, become a mod, and cause some ridiculous drama if you were so inclined.

Not really my style but I’m sure some will try

Ah, but you need to live up to your name.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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>large subs >I exclusively use desktop so I'm not affected [Doubt]

Why? I'm just a normal user, but 98% of my redditing was done on old.reddit

Because /large/ sub modding requires third party tools.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

#607
post #583

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I tentatively disagree here. The only required complexity for federation is choosing a server/instance. Once you are using it the experience could be made frictionless. I think a big problem people have had with trying to join federated socials is that they did it when everyone else tried it and thus the system failed. And so people think its really hard when its just been technical issues with onboarding people.

> The only required complexity for federation is choosing a server/instance. This is a bigger problem than fans of federation acknowledge, though. Human beings have multi-faceted identities, and fediverse instances tend to be quite narrowly focused. The average person is rightly going to assume that 'A collection of Marxist communities' - to take a real instance description from near the top of the join-lemmy.org lis…

I agree with the problem of federation identity but suspect this is partly an “image problem” in the sense that less specific and broader identities are a fix.

As for being subject to the whims of the instance; that is no different to reddit/twitter admin who also push ideological agendas. In fact, federation allows you to at least migrate to a different regime, something that neither commercial site permits.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

#608

Reddit clearly doesn't understand the product. When users join a sub it's because they like the content and tacitly approve of the moderation. All but new users are aware that subs are governed by mods. Installing a corporate-approved mod panel because a community isn't acting in Reddit Inc's financial best interest is to light the whole product on fire. What's the point of starting a new sub if it'll be repurposed a…

I'm super angry of all the mods who are taking the subs prisoner. If you don't like to pay reddit back, then let us use it. I'm a premium user and I pay reddit because I like the content, freemium users pay back watching ads, I was a freemium user of other platforms for decades. Why is letting them charge so bad?

> Why is letting them charge so bad?

No one - not one person I could find - said that Reddit charging was bad.

You are "super angry" about a belief of yours that is completely false. Not a good look.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

#609

I used shreddit to delete all of my comments a few days ago. I was shocked to discover today that they are all back. I'm deleting all of them again, but clearly Reddit is doing things on the back end. I've also read of people having their unsubs reversed.

When a subreddit is private, I don't think you have access to your comments to delete them. So depending on your timing it may have been unintentional.

I had many comments in non private subreddits (subs that never went private) that were deleted and then came back.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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post #97
post #76

We (the internet community) made such a terrible mistake with social media. We formed connections and communities and friendships on sites like Facebook and Twitter and Reddit, but those companies need to make money, so those connections are only allowed to exist as long as they are part of a profitable system. How awful it is to reduce human connection to that. To think that I am only allowed to maintain certain soc…

https://catvalente.substack.com/p/stop-talking-to-each-other... >Stop Talking to Each Other and Start Buying Things: Three Decades of Survival in the Desert of Social Media

The anguish in that piece is visceral but the writing itself is beautiful.
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