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Victims speak out over ‘tsunami’ of fraud on Instagram, Facebook and WhatsApp

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Re: Victims speak out over ‘tsunami’ of fraud on Instagram, Facebook and WhatsApp

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I've been thinking for a while now, as we've had social media for many years already. What good has it brought to society? Scams, addiction, FOMO, cancel culture, gossip, missinformation, bullying, and the most self-centered generation in history, to name a few. All of it instantly and on a global scale. It's truly one the worst things that ever happened to society IMO.

Social media has absolute changed the way people live their lives in my country - India. Personally, it has made me lose interest in my favorite outdoor activity i.e. hiking because of too many people showing up. Ex: I won't set foot on a trail on weekends[0]. [0] https://i.imgur.com/7V4cd4Z.png

At least people are getting outside and doing things together.

It’s the same in Ontario Canada, which can be frustrating.

But I am curious what activities are now missing all those people.

Re: Victims speak out over ‘tsunami’ of fraud on Instagram, Facebook and WhatsApp

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I've been thinking for a while now, as we've had social media for many years already. What good has it brought to society? Scams, addiction, FOMO, cancel culture, gossip, missinformation, bullying, and the most self-centered generation in history, to name a few. All of it instantly and on a global scale. It's truly one the worst things that ever happened to society IMO.

None of those things are exclusive to social media, some of them aren't even bad (gossip), and the rest have equal positives (misinformation = abundant information, bullying = uplifting each other). I always question what intention does someone have painting social media in such broad strokes. Especially when we consider who actively gains from narrowing where information can be accessed.

I see your point, the problem with social media is the exposure and scale. Kids these days can't fool around like we did, someone is always recording and you can go viral. I read not long ago about kids with severe anxiety in school due to the constant fear of the wrong photo or video going on social media.

And the abundant information, is that really a good thing? How much of it is good? Remember the Trump election, the amount of outright lies thrown around and the level of polarization, with even family members unable to speak to each other.

I'm not saying there's nothing good at all between the mud, but on the whole I think it's been a disaster.

Re: Victims speak out over ‘tsunami’ of fraud on Instagram, Facebook and WhatsApp

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Seems simple enough: if someone asks for money on Facebook/Instagram, just say no. Don't buy anything advertised there either.

>>Don't buy anything advertised there either.

YUP

Farcebook trying to convince everyone that Craigslist is unsafe (as if FB was safe) was one of the biggest scams ever.

Yes, it undermined CL stealing a bunch of the adverts, but it sure as hell made nobody more safe.

Re: Victims speak out over ‘tsunami’ of fraud on Instagram, Facebook and WhatsApp

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I think a lot of this is because a large amount of our society grew up without the Internet. To them, everything that looks professional is professional. They are easy targets for scammers.

Millennials and Gen-Z were raised on the Internet and therefore have an innate understanding of what is real and most importantly, what can be faked. Its a lot harder to scam. them.

If I told my parents about a Nigerian oil executive who needs to move $20 million out of a bank account, they would scratch their head. If I told my 28 year old co-worker, he'd laugh and understand the joke.

So, maybe in 20+ years, nobody will fall for these scams anymore.

Re: Victims speak out over ‘tsunami’ of fraud on Instagram, Facebook and WhatsApp

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the most self-centered generation in history Boomers? Also I'm not sure cancel culture is a bad thing. It's just negative branding for what is essentially the first time marginalized groups could have their voices heard. People who are used to writing op-eds and never hearing any criticism of their ideas are finally getting some negative feedback and they're super mad about it. You get absolutely unreal outrage abo…

No amount of euphemisms makes up for what cancel culture really is-- cyberbullying at scale. Scott Cawson, the creator of Five Nights at Freddy's, was doxxed, harassed, and had death threats issued against himself and his pregnant wife. His crime against society? Being outed as a Republican political donor. Not a crime, just exercising his right to participate in democracy. His ability to do so was subsequently attac…

I found the concepts that help a lot in discussing this in its essence are equality of opportunity vs equality of outcome.

Re: Victims speak out over ‘tsunami’ of fraud on Instagram, Facebook and WhatsApp

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I've been thinking for a while now, as we've had social media for many years already. What good has it brought to society? Scams, addiction, FOMO, cancel culture, gossip, missinformation, bullying, and the most self-centered generation in history, to name a few. All of it instantly and on a global scale. It's truly one the worst things that ever happened to society IMO.

I think the larger it grows the worse it gets.

Small group to talk to family or friends? Great!

The local community? Begin noticing dbags and crazies, people nasty to each other

National or larger? Forget about it, and now it's ratfucked by bad actors, shills, foreign intel, and other ilk.

Moderation also gets worse because these large entities try to create blanket standards with such a wide variation of cultures involved.

Re: Victims speak out over ‘tsunami’ of fraud on Instagram, Facebook and WhatsApp

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Social media has absolute changed the way people live their lives in my country - India. Personally, it has made me lose interest in my favorite outdoor activity i.e. hiking because of too many people showing up. Ex: I won't set foot on a trail on weekends[0]. [0] https://i.imgur.com/7V4cd4Z.png

Mmm, overpopulation. Will you be blaming social media for their overcrowded trains too? https://imgur.com/gallery/2Xo9x

The comment you're responding to refers to India as their country.

I'm assuming they've witnessed the changes first hand in that case.

Re: Victims speak out over ‘tsunami’ of fraud on Instagram, Facebook and WhatsApp

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I've been thinking for a while now, as we've had social media for many years already. What good has it brought to society? Scams, addiction, FOMO, cancel culture, gossip, missinformation, bullying, and the most self-centered generation in history, to name a few. All of it instantly and on a global scale. It's truly one the worst things that ever happened to society IMO.

> the most self-centered generation in history Boomers? Also I'm not sure cancel culture is a bad thing. It's just negative branding for what is essentially the first time marginalized groups could have their voices heard. People who are used to writing op-eds and never hearing any criticism of their ideas are finally getting some negative feedback and they're super mad about it. You get absolutely unreal outrage abo…

> what is essentially the first time marginalized groups could have their voices heard

> There has never been a right to say what you want without being shamed or shunned

So... when the marginalized groups start getting cancelled, do I get to say "well they don't have a right not to be shunned"?

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

We're living in a new McCarthyism.

Re: Victims speak out over ‘tsunami’ of fraud on Instagram, Facebook and WhatsApp

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I've been thinking for a while now, as we've had social media for many years already. What good has it brought to society? Scams, addiction, FOMO, cancel culture, gossip, missinformation, bullying, and the most self-centered generation in history, to name a few. All of it instantly and on a global scale. It's truly one the worst things that ever happened to society IMO.

None of those things are exclusive to social media, some of them aren't even bad (gossip), and the rest have equal positives (misinformation = abundant information, bullying = uplifting each other). I always question what intention does someone have painting social media in such broad strokes. Especially when we consider who actively gains from narrowing where information can be accessed.

Information reduces uncertainty. A lot of talking or a lot of misinformation does not increase information but noise.
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