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Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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post #247

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The threshold for free API usage for modding tools is being increased from 60 to 100 queries per minute https://mods.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/16693988535309 There are a very small minority that exceed that even now apparently. Seems not unreasonable to me.

Why is this downvoted? According to the linked article, even the bots which exceed the usage were manually whitelisted to stay free.

That doesn't matter if they previously broke the bot or the bot author took them down to protest the API price change. https://www.reddit.com/user/Blank-Cheque took all their bots down 10 days ago until the third-party apps change is reverted.

• AssistantBOT, AssistantBOT1 - This was broken by the Pushshift API cutoff. It's widely used for tracking sub usage statistics. The author is working on fixing it, but the last update was three weeks ago.

• Flair_Helper (Blank-Cheque) - This makes removing posts easier, especially on mobile. I haven't used it in anger.

• FloodgatesBot (Blank-Cheque) - This applies posting limits for users. There are a couple competitors, but I'm not sure how many are still running.

• Quality_Vote (Blank-Cheque) - This is used to allow users to remove unpopular posts. It can save a lot of moderation work in the right kind of sub.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

#912
post #789

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Stats? Come on. Reddit pesters every mobile user agent to install their shitty app every time. It's like Google pushing Chrome. How many people install their malware just to stop getting nagged about it? People even say they made reddit web bad on purpose to drive people to the app. Show those users better third party apps with no ads and then ask them which they like more.

Why do you deserve to have no ads? Reddit isn't a community service. I do think that for moderators, they could have some special app to help them do their jobs easier, but for regular users, meh, the ads are easy enough to scroll past, like in other social media outfits. I also don't agree that the mobile app is shitty.

Your quip about deserving no ads has precisely 0 to do with the comment you are replying to. Nothing does but the last tiny sentence where you voice your own unpopular opinion with no substance to back it. Really strange post.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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> I fully support those that are. Fully supporting the blackout would mean continuing the blackout on your own subs, would it not? Just say you're "partially" supporting the blackout - like in ways that don't directly effect your direct, current use of the platform. I don't care either way, just be honest with yourself.

Hah. Fair enough. TBH I'm just kinda lazy and don't want to go and reconfigure all that crap again after doing it and then undoing it earlier this week. Those large subs have more resources at their disposable and a critical mass for disruption. My couple thousand subscribers simply are not that effective in getting Reddit to listen, I feel like. Definitely if moderating those subs becomes actually burdensome in the…

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Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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>The fact that Reddit chose to take this course of action tells me that they don’t actually know that much about their own website. That might also explain why they never built out the tooling to begin with. It's seemed like that for years. They've had strong reasons to develop the site for years. The two main things they've done are build an app for phones and spend a relatively long time creating a "new" UI that ch…

It's also important to remember they didn't just 'build an app for phones' They bought AlienBlue - a 3rd party app, that they now claim shouldn't now exist, and should never have existed.

Alienblue was the first app I bought. Then reddit bought it and latter canned it for the offical app. They kept changing it until it became the monstrosity we have today. On mobile, I browse reddit through old.reddit.com - anything else is an awful experience

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

#916
post #476

This reminds me of Digg's death throes and the massive exodus to reddit. It's as if Spez wants the same to happen to reddit and for everyone to migrate to discord.

Discord is worse. Like Reddit, it's owned by a corporation and unlike Reddit, search engines can't index it so the conversations effectively go into a black hole. Also, Discord is live chat so unless you're there 24/7, you might miss a conversation you are interested in, where on Reddit, you can still read and participate in older conversations you missed when they occurred.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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post #789

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Why do you deserve to have no ads? Reddit isn't a community service. I do think that for moderators, they could have some special app to help them do their jobs easier, but for regular users, meh, the ads are easy enough to scroll past, like in other social media outfits. I also don't agree that the mobile app is shitty.

> Why do you deserve to have no ads? Because my attention belongs to me. Exclusively. It's not yours. It's not reddit's. It's not Google's. It doesn't belong to anyone other than I, certainly not a corporation. It's not a currency that can be used to pay for services. They do not have the right to sell it off to the highest bidder. I deserve not to be advertised to for the same reasons women deserve not to be raped:…

You are choosing to use an ad based service. No one is forcing you to view reddit. Your attention belongs to you and you can choose to direct it where you want. You knew reddit included ads, you consented to use reddit which includes ads. Just because you don’t like ads doesn’t make it “mind rape”. If you don’t like penises, but consent to have sex with a cis man, it isn’t rape because he has a penis that you don’t like but knew he had. It isn’t rape because you want to have sex with anyone and everyone and want none of them to have a penis. The answer is not that no one is allowed to have a penis, the answer is for you to stop having sex with people with penises. It isn’t the world’s responsibility to only be populated with people you want to have sex with, it is your responsibility to only consent to have sex with people you actually want to have sex with.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

#920
post #745

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They were charging by request. IIRC the $2.50 figure was arrived at by taking the total number of requests and dividing it by the total number of users.

ah I see. Too high a price then.

the actual price Apollo charged would likely have to be much higher. The average number of API calls for the users who are deep enough into reddit addiction to be willing to pay for it would be substantially higher without the casual user who views 10 pages a month to average it out.

The problem is casuals are not going to pay, only powerusers would pay and they're making hundreds of calls per day/thousands per month. Take that $2.50 number and 10-100x it, and then add in App Store payment processing costs.

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