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Illinois prohibits weapons, facial recognition on police drones

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Re: Illinois prohibits weapons, facial recognition on police drones

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Post by abeppu »

abeppu wrote: post #51

Can we get a federal bill with the same prohibitions? It would be absurd if the right to be free from fear of automated death from the skies is left to a patchwork of state and local restrictions. Irresponsible arguments that I would totally not be surprised to hear to push in the opposite direction: - If law enforcement doesn't have armed drones, we live in a world where only the criminals have armed drones. - Somet…

To be clear, I _also_ would strongly prefer the facial recognition prohibition be national (and also apply to non-drone-based cameras that police have access to). But clearly literal killer drones are worse than mere spy drones.

Re: Illinois prohibits weapons, facial recognition on police drones

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Post by RajT88 »

femiagbabiaka wrote: post #20
samwillis wrote: post #5

As a Brit, watching the militarisation of the US police force is kinda scary. Hearing about successful push back and positive legislation is good. A quick bit of Googling, I can't find any evidence of weapons a being placed on police drones in Illinois, so this seems preemptive, which is good to see! (Our own police force has many of its own problems)

I knew it was an issue when a rural town of at best 2000 people adjacent to where my wife grew up successfully purchased multiple Humvees for "riot control" through 1033 (a program instituted by a president from the equivalent of a blairite-ish labour party in our country, no less). More about that here: https://www.marketplace.org/2020/06/12/police-departments-10...

Sort of like how Naperville has APC's, but also somehow is "The Safest Place in America". (That title is a fraud, btw, and the result of systemic non-prosecution, non-reporting, and reduction of felonies to lesser crimes. But they indeed don't have much of a gang violence problem - just major drug problems which go unaddressed.)

Re: Illinois prohibits weapons, facial recognition on police drones

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Post by wyager »

samwillis wrote: post #5

As a Brit, watching the militarisation of the US police force is kinda scary. Hearing about successful push back and positive legislation is good. A quick bit of Googling, I can't find any evidence of weapons a being placed on police drones in Illinois, so this seems preemptive, which is good to see! (Our own police force has many of its own problems)

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Re: Illinois prohibits weapons, facial recognition on police drones

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Post by mulmen »

PedroBatista wrote: post #68
mulmen wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weird take. Policing is hard, sure. I don’t think flying guns with facial recognition are the solution we need. If this is what “defund the police” means then sign me up. Defund all their armed face scanning drones.

I'm not a fan either, but we demand more and more from the police, yet there is a powerful force ( mostly political ) to curb the resources the police can use. I get both sides, but this road will have bad results. ( making Illinois into a police state is not a solution either )

Defund the police is about demanding less from the police. Policing is hard and necessary but armed drones aren’t a solution.

Re: Illinois prohibits weapons, facial recognition on police drones

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Post by craigmcnamara »

mulmen wrote: post #70
abeppu wrote: post #51

Can we get a federal bill with the same prohibitions? It would be absurd if the right to be free from fear of automated death from the skies is left to a patchwork of state and local restrictions. Irresponsible arguments that I would totally not be surprised to hear to push in the opposite direction: - If law enforcement doesn't have armed drones, we live in a world where only the criminals have armed drones. - Somet…

I get the argument for federal laws but honestly I think it is misguided to want state laws promoted to a national level immediately. This is how law in the US evolves. The patchwork is a feature. A federal government with the agility to implement this law at a national level would have far too much power. The system is working.

We should promote this patch to production ASAP

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Post by hinkley »

RajT88 wrote: post #40
remyp wrote: post #16

As an Illinois resident, voter, and taxpayer, I'm pleased by this. I don't think I've never been _happy_ with Illinois politicians, but this current set is meaningfully productive enough for me to consider plausible the idea of being happy with my government.

>I don't think I've never been _happy_ with Illinois politicians Occasionally, I'm happy with the amount of jail time they get.

A particular treat for residents of Illinois and New York.

Re: Illinois prohibits weapons, facial recognition on police drones

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Post by mulmen »

craigmcnamara wrote: post #75
mulmen wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get the argument for federal laws but honestly I think it is misguided to want state laws promoted to a national level immediately. This is how law in the US evolves. The patchwork is a feature. A federal government with the agility to implement this law at a national level would have far too much power. The system is working.

We should promote this patch to production ASAP

Works on my machine. Or is that in my neighborhood?

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Post by PedroBatista »

starlevel003 wrote: post #47
PedroBatista wrote: post #41

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> This "defund de police" bs has been one of the most damaging rhetoric's in American cities. People are being victimized left and right, robberies, rapes, gang violence, etc because some people know there are little to no consequences. Police budgets haven't actually been defunded, and yet this still happens.

Please understand that "defund the police" is way more than just cutting money to buy things, but also demanding huge amounts for asinine redtape that is mostly impractical in the real World. Also local directives like: "Not permitting a police officer to be at a school or even at the parking lot" ( yes.. really )

To the point most police departments are running at half-capacity and 911 calls remain open for HOURS!

It's all fine, until you are the one calling 911 and feel abandoned, then who are you going to blame? The police of course..

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