Peaceful protests are virtue signaling. The appearance of doing something and caring without actual effort or change. That people are astonished at the return of the status quo afterwards shows how little thought is put into their execution or chance of achieving goals.
Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private
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#782Earlier quoted context omitted.
be careful for what you wish for. 4chan went from both good and bad at the same time to overwhelmingly bad, eclipsing and later drowning the good due to reddit's initial purge of problematic communities implicitly encouraging them to migrate to communities like 4chan. Reddit fostered and encouraged these communities (it is said that spez was a mod for jailbait subreddit) in the initial days when its aim was to become…
Supposedly Spez was made a mod of that subreddit by a troll who exploited a bug/feature that allowed you to make anyone a mod of your subreddit. However reddit did host that community for years (Spez claimed the creep mods were helpful in flagging cp throughout the site), and it's ironic you mention "problematic" communities migrating to 4chan in the same context, since 4chan takes a much harsher stance on the sexual…
>Supposedly Spez was made a mod of that subreddit by a troll who exploited a bug/feature that allowed you to make anyone a mod of your subreddit.
I stand corrected then. It's been seen many times in the last few weeks in many places.
> since 4chan takes a much harsher stance on the sexualization of minors than reddit.
While true, the time I was around there, the time of gaia online/SA/4chan (2005 to 09) it was also something that people joked about. There was even a popular character called pedobear that was often used as the butt of jokes for those who sexualized minors. Though reddit was a later phenomenon, and reddit was an order of magnitude worse, it wasn't like sexualization of minors was looked at as a crime at 4chan by everyone. There were some free speech absolutists who claimed to be against it, but were against taking it down.
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#783This is so sad honestly. Like wtf is going on, no apology, no good will, doubling down on the complete moral suicide of Reddit. To push an app no-one ever liked, you know that, but whatever. No-one likes “new” Reddit either, you know that, but whatever. Who’s even gonna use the site after this? Social media zombie sheeple is all that's going to be left. Congrats on your dumb little site, from the front-page of the In…
what are you talking about... i've used the official app since the beginning and honestly have no issues. I don't get this whole 3rd party app uproar.
Same, would love to know what is 'bad' about the official app.
Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private
#784This is so sad honestly. Like wtf is going on, no apology, no good will, doubling down on the complete moral suicide of Reddit. To push an app no-one ever liked, you know that, but whatever. No-one likes “new” Reddit either, you know that, but whatever. Who’s even gonna use the site after this? Social media zombie sheeple is all that's going to be left. Congrats on your dumb little site, from the front-page of the In…
> Are you guys starving or what??
The CEO himself have said a few times that they are are not and were never profitable. They can't keep raising money, so yeah, from their POV, it's do something now and bad consequences don't really matter.
The thing where he disagree with any thinking human is on what that "something" may be (and about not acting earlier). But the desperation is reasonable.
Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private
#785This is so sad honestly. Like wtf is going on, no apology, no good will, doubling down on the complete moral suicide of Reddit. To push an app no-one ever liked, you know that, but whatever. No-one likes “new” Reddit either, you know that, but whatever. Who’s even gonna use the site after this? Social media zombie sheeple is all that's going to be left. Congrats on your dumb little site, from the front-page of the In…
Im not a fan of how reddit is handling the situation, but: > To push an app no-one ever liked, you know that, but whatever. No-one likes “new” Reddit either, you know that, but whatever. Who’s even gonna use the site after this? Is just not true at all unless you have actual stats to back that up. A ton of people disagree with that take. The site has grown a massive amount since the new design was released in 2018. S…
Minority by quantity or quality?
How many people visit reddit because they searcher something on google, how many do more than just read?
Mods are part of the power users, alienating them can have a large effect on the community landscape
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#786I think Huffman is falling into a trap that Kanye and Mark Zuckerberg have fallen into: trying to prove he's special.
Kanye rose to fame as a young genius rapper/producer/designer and was acclaimed repeatedly. Zuckerberg rose to fame as a brilliant business twenty-something (according to the world around).
They spent half their life being praised and told they're important, brilliant, special, prescient, etc. So they are confident they can prove it again.
Kanye is doing.... something strange now. Zuckerberg tanked the stock price with VR/Metaverse and then juked it by firing a chunk of the company. They are so confident something intrinsic in them makes their choices special and 'right,' that they can see something no one else can.
Huffman et al. were at the right place and right time with a LAMP(?) stack when Digg imploded. Now he wants to prove that it's not "right place right time" but that he is special.
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#787Earlier quoted context omitted.
>NSFW poison pill Could you explain what you mean by this?
Something that has gotten lost amidst all the pricing talk is that Reddit said their API would also stop serving any content marked as NSFW, essentially making it useless for any third party app (general use or moderator use) even if they could come to an agreement on pricing.
The NSFW thing is extra annoying because there are a lot of subreddits that use the NSFW flag to mark entries as something else with styles applied to change the appearance.
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#788Earlier quoted context omitted.
Im not a fan of how reddit is handling the situation, but: > To push an app no-one ever liked, you know that, but whatever. No-one likes “new” Reddit either, you know that, but whatever. Who’s even gonna use the site after this? Is just not true at all unless you have actual stats to back that up. A ton of people disagree with that take. The site has grown a massive amount since the new design was released in 2018. S…
> keep the main, core userbase happy I think you're mistaking the apathetic hordes who don't contribute much with the power users, power posters, and moderators. I consider the latter to be the "core userbase". Not the big numbers that look good to an mba. If a team built a reddit replacement, they would want that 0.1%, not the rest.
> I consider the latter to be the "core userbase"
How do you measure this? I see this a lot, but no one can ever quantify it. Is it just a feeling that people that make most of the content use old.reddit and 3rd party apps? Are we just hoping thats the case?
Or maybe the "power users" are constantly changing or are actually corporate accounts? On a massive site where moderators get to decide what content makes it to the masses, it might make sense that the corporate/commercial users are the "power users." But Id have to put on my tinfoil hat to believe that.
Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private
#789Earlier quoted context omitted.
Im not a fan of how reddit is handling the situation, but: > To push an app no-one ever liked, you know that, but whatever. No-one likes “new” Reddit either, you know that, but whatever. Who’s even gonna use the site after this? Is just not true at all unless you have actual stats to back that up. A ton of people disagree with that take. The site has grown a massive amount since the new design was released in 2018. S…
Stats? Come on. Reddit pesters every mobile user agent to install their shitty app every time. It's like Google pushing Chrome. How many people install their malware just to stop getting nagged about it? People even say they made reddit web bad on purpose to drive people to the app. Show those users better third party apps with no ads and then ask them which they like more.
Why do you deserve to have no ads? Reddit isn't a community service.
I do think that for moderators, they could have some special app to help them do their jobs easier, but for regular users, meh, the ads are easy enough to scroll past, like in other social media outfits.
I also don't agree that the mobile app is shitty.
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#790Earlier quoted context omitted.
Im not a fan of how reddit is handling the situation, but: > To push an app no-one ever liked, you know that, but whatever. No-one likes “new” Reddit either, you know that, but whatever. Who’s even gonna use the site after this? Is just not true at all unless you have actual stats to back that up. A ton of people disagree with that take. The site has grown a massive amount since the new design was released in 2018. S…
This isn't a good take because the evidence is contextual. Joe Average users typically download the reddit app because they are forced to or face the dysfunctional mobile site. I watched my own partner do it. She doesnt like the app or care for reddit at all, its simply next generation facebook style walled garden garbage, including reddits fucking terrible video hosting format. The business has abandoned its once co…
> including reddits fucking terrible video hosting format
Yeah, include "why did Reddit insists on the cost of self-hosting videos if they didn't have the competence or the money to do it correctly?" on my list of reasons the CEO is an idiot.