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Comments like these are really.... something. It's basically boiling down to don't you plebes know we can smash you like insects whenever we want? Now go enjoy your trickles of piss. People are protesting because they do understand, and they don't like it, and they will probably leave.
I am willing to bet a lot of money that reddit is not losing users out of this, it is gaining
This is the result of shamelessness seeping into business. That contrarian business thinking that does away with any pretense of putting anything other than money first. Also, this idea of charging for API access is lazy and unimaginative.
I'm surprised to keep hearing that charging for API is lazy and bad for a business. They can do whatever they want with their API and price their services as they see fit. Reddit isn't going anywhere because it's a good product for the end user. It's expensive to run and unfeathered access to their content was part of their acquisition strategy. Now they want to go public and want to be a real business. I'm with Redd…
Smelled this one coming miles away. Next, they'll hand over fan-built communities to the entities that own the IPs they're dedicated to. Eg. r/starwars to Disney, r/startrek to Viacom/Paramount, etc. Then, old.reddit.com will stop working spontaneously, just like how they toyed with killing mobile browser access to force users to download the app, which they probably will eventually. That's going to be the final push…
This is obviously not going to happen, and insinuations to the contrary are just sour grapes. The fact that this could even be upvoted speaks poorly to the Redditization of HN.
>Aaron Swartz is rolling in his grave.
He has been for years. These same powermods have been at the forefront of demanding changes that undermined his vision.
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> But Christian took this very personally, and he decided to take his toys and go home. I mean wouldn't you? He's built an app that brings him a decent income, he can work on it full time, he based his career on that application. What reaction would you expect out of f.e. youtubers when youtube made it suddenly unable for them to sustain themselves? I mean basing your life/income/business on another business is never…
Im not sure what I would do. But I do know that if I reacted similarly, by posting all of the private meetings and communications to the public web, where I knew a hornet's nest would be stirred up (his subreddit obviously), I can't expect much of a relationship with reddit to survive after the fact. I can understand how he feels, but he had to know that this would happen. > I think he has all the rights to be angry…
Private meetings aren’t private after the CEO posts a completely mischaracterized version of said meeting already. Canada is also a one-party consent state, so he was fully in his right to do everything he did.
> I can't expect much of a relationship with reddit to survive after the fact.
It’s funny that this is the straw that caused you to think the relationship was over, and not the obvious and easily disproven libel that the CEO kept doubling down on.
Anyone that looked at the situation objectively could see who was clearly in the wrong, and it wasn’t Christian as you keep implying. Reddit completely torpedoed their relationship at every single turn and at this point has quadrupled down on it.
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Spez is CEO because the board and investors deem him to be the best person for the job. Of course, he founded Reddit, so he has a strong case on merit for why he is the #1 person on the planet to run the company. The process for selecting moderators is way less meritocratic or democratic than this. They merely got there first, finders keepers. The analogy for landed gentry is accurate.
You think it's democratic if the investors picked him? That's not democracy, that oligarchy. But in both cases I don't think that democracy is what you want. In the case of subreddits, it doesn't matter because you can always create your own subreddit. And in the case of Reddit as a whole, if people stick with the site after this, then they'll deserve the corporatist crap they'll get served.
Oligarchy != rich people existing and doing stuff
What makes me really sad was there was a way around this. Even if we accept the CEO’s lie that running the API is costly , Reddits monthly revenue per user is $0.12 at best. They were demanding $2.50 per user per month from third party apps. A simpler solution - “users who want to use third party apps need to pay Reddit $6/month directly by subscribing to Reddit premium”. That would have raised way more revenue! And…
You aren’t even mentioning the NSFW poison pill they added. Even if the pricing had been workable, this was never designed to do anything but kill external API access. I definitely would have paid $6 a month to keep using Apollo.
This is so sad honestly. Like wtf is going on, no apology, no good will, doubling down on the complete moral suicide of Reddit. To push an app no-one ever liked, you know that, but whatever. No-one likes “new” Reddit either, you know that, but whatever. Who’s even gonna use the site after this? Social media zombie sheeple is all that's going to be left. Congrats on your dumb little site, from the front-page of the In…
Im not a fan of how reddit is handling the situation, but: > To push an app no-one ever liked, you know that, but whatever. No-one likes “new” Reddit either, you know that, but whatever. Who’s even gonna use the site after this? Is just not true at all unless you have actual stats to back that up. A ton of people disagree with that take. The site has grown a massive amount since the new design was released in 2018. S…
The business has abandoned its once core userbase in favour of cheap eyeballs. It's sheer modern tech laziness and an embarassment to the "innovation" culture that it lazily still staples itself to.
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All they had to do was make showing ads part of the ToS for developing third party apps, to require login for API access, and make only mass scraping require $$$.
Or just require a Reddit Gold sub to any user who wants to use another app.