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Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by PhilipRoman »

RheingoldRiver wrote: post #235
harryf wrote: post #139

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What gives me hope is if you ever take a break from social media you realize how worthless it all is. It really doesn’t hurt to disengage. For similar reasons it’s possible for new networks to show up which disrupt the old, such as TikTok. The point is as individuals we are way less dependent on social media than we imagine.

I disagree. If you find the right communities, you really make close friendships with people - even if you don't know their real names, how old they are, where they work, or where they live. None of that matters, because you share and connect over a common interest. And you could never find so many people IRL with similar interests as you. If this isn't how you're using reddit, discord, etc, and it's easy to disconne…

I'm sure you can make friendships in any environment like, say, a prison. I personally find IRC servers and in-game chats to be some of the best places for discussion.

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Post by mjan22640 »

this_user wrote: post #323
mandmandam wrote: post #101

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Yes! And they're so incredibly cheap to run, in the scheme of things. They're TEXT and LINKS ffs. Even Snapchat, which deals in video, costs about $2.50 per user per year to run. Honestly, we're some set of dopes to let people like Zuck and Huffman build yachts and apocalypse bunkers, with bloody advertising money, all for the genius idea of sharing text and links on the internet.

Social networks derive their value from their size. $2.5 per year per user may not be much, but if you have just 1000 users, that is already $2500 per year. 100000 users is a quarter of a million per year. Are you going to pay for that out of pocket? It takes money to run a social network of meaningful size in even just a halfway professional manner. Who would do that while receiving nothing in return?

Design the network physically distributed on the users computers.

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Post by zo1 »

moskie wrote: post #546
aceazzameen wrote: post #483

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I'm hoping when the day comes, it isn't too violent. But history has its own thing to say about that.

It is troubling that, in the US at least, one of the two major political constituencies has a lot more guns than the other....

It's not troubling to me - seeing as I think that specific group of people are the saner of the two and less likely to punish me for my beliefs. I honestly don't know how people can think that things are "peachy" on the "left", they look positively Orwellian.

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Post by Tildey »

Loughla wrote: post #144
javajosh wrote: post #79

One gets the feeling that the Reddit leadership is "feeling themselves", and have lost sight of the fact that people can just walk away and suffer no ill consequences. In fact, it might even be in their psychological benefit to do so! Take a break, and maybe come back in a few months, a year, and see what distributed forums people have started. Sounds like a great thing for the internet, tbh. (I finally deleted my Tw…

The break from reddit has really opened my eyes to what I'm afraid is a full blown smartphone/reddit/doom scrolling addiction. I wonder how many other oblivious people like me there are who are realizing the negative effects of reddit on their psyche.

I’m far more addicted to scrolling on reddit than instagram. As good as modern social media algorithms are, my curated feed of niche interests and communities I’m a part of, is just a lot more addictive to me.

The format of mostly text based content (even if it’s an image on reddit, I’m mostly there for the discussion below) is a lot easier to open and look at for a few seconds than the mostly-video instagram/TikTok feed.

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Post by zo1 »

hliyan wrote: post #454
moskie wrote: post #76

We (the internet community) made such a terrible mistake with social media. We formed connections and communities and friendships on sites like Facebook and Twitter and Reddit, but those companies need to make money, so those connections are only allowed to exist as long as they are part of a profitable system. How awful it is to reduce human connection to that. To think that I am only allowed to maintain certain soc…

A few years ago, I came up with this idea: "...a social network that uses email as its communications protocol and regular mail servers as the “cloud”. There is no “platform”, but an app which is basically a re-skinned mail client with certain features disabled or abstracted. There is no advertising." https://hliyan.medium.com/email-re-skinned-as-a-social-netwo...

And "channels" or "pages" are really just email groups?

There was a time a while back where that sort of thing was thriving, and I believe it was mediated by Google Groups at the time (I can't recall the specifics). I remember seeing such amazing visual content back then, shared as plain old emails.

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Post by auxym »

joshvm wrote: post #537
winternett wrote: post #497

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Therein lies the problem... We spent so many years crowdsourcing these curated knowledge bases on a variety of subjects for free to the point that it's empowered the controlling companies to firewall them now and then make our input a commodity that they can turn around and sell to us. Walled garden sites and apps are the enemy. The only way social media works for certain people is if they are off the main exploited…

The funny thing is that a lot of the stuff people on Reddit are clamouring for was easily supported by forums, and has been done forever. Admins were free to run their own ads or premium posts, they got sponsorship from companies, organised swaps and real-life meetups. I remember getting perks like free shipping from some places in return for being an active user. The communities were also more intimate. You'd intera…

Tapatalk is/was an attempt at such an aggregation tool for old-school forums. In addition to aggregation, it offered better UX for mobile. I haven't used it in many years though, I'm not sure what it looks like these days.

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Post by unsupp0rted »

gonehome wrote: post #471
joshvm wrote: post #401

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Reddit successfully centralised forums and made it convenient because you didn't need 20+ logins. The other half is link sharing/doom scrolling (the addictive stuff), which replaced Digg, Stumbleupon, etc. In the not-so-distant past if you wanted expert help and non-astroturfed suggestions (or even just memes), that's where you went. Those places still exist for a lot of fields and the experts still hang out (and oft…

In addition to the login bit, reddit/hn style threaded comments for conversation is way better UI (imo) than pages of slow loading quoting forum posts.

Threaded conversations is the killer feature of Reddit/HN for me. Second is that I don't need to shift between 20 different forum interfaces/color schemes. Old Reddit always looks the same, so long as you disable the ability of subreddits to mess with styling.

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Post by rcxdude »

CincinnatiMan wrote: post #69
Havoc wrote: post #24

Ah the classic beatings will continue until morale improves approach. Starting to think Reddit leadership is genuinely not all that sharp

There are likely hundreds if not thousands of users who would be willing to become mods of each of the subreddits that are still in private mode. I know I would mod some of the subs I find useful.

I think there's a lot of people who like the idea of being a mod but don't actually like it once they actually have to do it. It takes quite some mental fortitude to do effectively.

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Post by Havoc »

bee_rider wrote: post #257
CincinnatiMan wrote: post #69

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There are likely hundreds if not thousands of users who would be willing to become mods of each of the subreddits that are still in private mode. I know I would mod some of the subs I find useful.

It would probably be a great time to try and hop in, become a mod, and cause some ridiculous drama if you were so inclined.

Not really my style but I’m sure some will try

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Post by 9991 »

blibble wrote: post #184
donutshop wrote: post #3

What's the end game here for reddit? There's no way this would end well.

back out the changes, bring them back in 6 months at a much lower price then slowly increase the price

Apparently they must IPO this year. I think that's the underlying reason for all of the running round like a headless chicken.
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