"Subreddits belong to the community of users who come to them for support and conversation"
...so is Reddit a commons shared by the community, or is it a profit-generating resource? You only get to pick one.
Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private
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Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private
#72One somewhat-related bit on the topic of moderators: does it bother anyone else that the stewards of some of these communities are effectively 100% anonymous? Are we actually okay with these spaces that shape significant discussion/sentiment being guided by people who lack accountability? I want to be clear that I'm not saying we should be doxxing mods or anything, but if there is a significant changeover of moderato…
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#73If you don't pay for it, it's not your community. Again and again people think they get something for free, which they don't. If it's free you're a volunteer for the company, if you pay you're a customer.
They aren't getting something for free. They're getting something in exchange for being exposed to advertising.
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
The richest part here is where spez refers to moderators as a "landed gentry": https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/reddit-protest-blacko... “And I think, on Reddit, the analogy is closer to the landed gentry: The people who get there first get to stay there and pass it down to their descendants, and that is not democratic.” What does that make spez relative to the constituents in his community?
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That would be its investors.
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are lots of users that are unhappy with Reddit for this. I've stopped using it this week.
I looked at one reddit: r/science. That is blockaded now. A 'private community'. This is (was) an aggregator of SCIENCE news and information. How does blocking the flow of potentially life-saving information help "the cause"? Reddit is dead to me, too. This is beyond sad.
The good news is that you could go create your own subreddit. Right now. Go create r/Science2. Go do it and mod it yourself, then link it here.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Uhh, not according to mods as of two days ago... https://www.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/148ks6u/indefinit...
https://mods.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/16693988535309
So, "moderator bots and other tooling using our Data API" and concerns around that "[falling] into the free API tier" is definitely not the only issue cited in the link I provided.
Edit: Not only that, shifting mod tools to the free tier doesn't magically solve the fiscal issue third-party apps have and will still result in them shutting down. A huge part of the reason mods use those third-party apps is because Reddit's own app doesn't provide the tools they want/need. To the point of the other person who responded to you, Reddit has absolutely dangled a carrot that does nothing in an effort to seem like they're being helpful.
Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private
#77"Subreddits belong to the community of users who come to them for support and conversation" ...so is Reddit a commons shared by the community, or is it a profit-generating resource? You only get to pick one.
>profit-generating
Lol nope.
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#78I wouldn't be surprised if they've put themselves on the radar of Harvard Business Review for having the ball in their court and somehow phenomenally fumbling it at every opportunity
I'm kinda curious why none of the third party app developers considered selling Reddit requests as in-app purchases – just charge the rate Reddit charges.
Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private
#79One somewhat-related bit on the topic of moderators: does it bother anyone else that the stewards of some of these communities are effectively 100% anonymous? Are we actually okay with these spaces that shape significant discussion/sentiment being guided by people who lack accountability? I want to be clear that I'm not saying we should be doxxing mods or anything, but if there is a significant changeover of moderato…
A lot of moderators hide the moderator list because they get far too much abuse for decisions they make. It's dead simple: make a moderation decision based on the rules of the subreddit -> person affected by decision whines to the moderator and clogs up their inbox. Need to make more decisions per day -> inbox filled with more and more whining.
Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private
#80One somewhat-related bit on the topic of moderators: does it bother anyone else that the stewards of some of these communities are effectively 100% anonymous? Are we actually okay with these spaces that shape significant discussion/sentiment being guided by people who lack accountability? I want to be clear that I'm not saying we should be doxxing mods or anything, but if there is a significant changeover of moderato…
> One somewhat-related bit on the topic of moderators: does it bother anyone else that the stewards of some of these communities are effectively 100% anonymous?
It doesn't bother me one bit. If the community is that big a company should fork over cash and pay employees to moderate it instead, or keep an eye on the volunteer moderators for any suspicious actions.
Instead of exposing identification I rather have moderators be subject to yearly votes. That way squatting is less of an issue.