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Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by eek2121 »

u/spez is not yet at the FO level of FAFO, but he is getting close. If he keeps doubling down, he's going to find out just what happens when a "startup" like Reddit begins to act like twitter does. Specifically, Must can juggle lawsuits and lose money hand over fist. Reddit cannot.

Like, I get the naysayers, but VC funded companies only have so much capital. I have worked for startups most of my life, and the last time a CEO/CTO acted like u/spez in my arena? The company went from near profitability to bankrupt overnight. At that particular startup, I was actually let go because I asked a lot of questions. Then, customers started asking questions...then investors. Then, the lawsuits started.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by EA-3167 »

yanderekko wrote: post #430
EA-3167 wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you tell a willing user with the intention to keep a sub running as is, and a willing user who just wants to burn it all down, turn it into their own fiefdom, or worse? What's the ratio of the former to the latter, and does Reddit have the manpower to tell to the difference on a time frame that keeps the subs alive? What's the impact of a bunch of people who know how the sausage is made being essentially coup'…

>How do you tell a willing user with the intention to keep a sub running as is, and a willing user who just wants to burn it all down, turn it into their own fiefdom, or worse? Reddit has replaced mods before. This isn't a new problem, the only novelty here is its scale.

"Quantity has a quality all its own."

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by sagebird »

I am suggesting a user protest procedure.

1. Reply to as many Reddit posts as possible with irrelevant, low quality answers that are wrong and do not make sense. It should be purposefully bad and poor training data for LLMs.

2. Begin your replies with the word “This”. It lets others know you are in on the joke, but doesn’t reveal your hand fully. If Reddit starts throttling replies that start with the word “This” it will be embarrassing for Reddit to explain.

3. Upvote every nonsense reply. Downvote real replies.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by itsthecourier »

midoridensha wrote: post #487
itsthecourier wrote: post #391

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use reddit a lot and I hate all these blackouts. I pay reddit premium because I like what the platform gives me back.

Sounds like you're interested in volunteering your time to be a mod then, right?

They can stop modding, but they shouldn't close the door when they leave.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by BugsJustFindMe »

tensor wrote: post #466
BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #443

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You’re asserting users are selfish. You have twice now fabricated an argument that I am not making. I'm not fazed by this, but I think you should be aware that this is a thing you're doing. I've multiple times said that neither party has any obligation to the other. The people who do assert obligations for others after the fact for self-perpetuated labor are selfish.

> but it's an extreme form of selfishness to demand that someone else sacrifice earnings to provide perpetual unfettered platform access to things that were put on the platform of posters' own accord without coercion.

I urge you to read it again with the newfound knowledge that, now three times without any attempt at course adjustment, you've so far been misconstruing it. Sidebar on preventing this kind of situation in the future: asking questions clears confusion faster than repeating the same mistaken statements again after learning that they're mistaken.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by outcoldman »

harryf wrote: post #139
moskie wrote: post #76

We (the internet community) made such a terrible mistake with social media. We formed connections and communities and friendships on sites like Facebook and Twitter and Reddit, but those companies need to make money, so those connections are only allowed to exist as long as they are part of a profitable system. How awful it is to reduce human connection to that. To think that I am only allowed to maintain certain soc…

What gives me hope is if you ever take a break from social media you realize how worthless it all is. It really doesn’t hurt to disengage. For similar reasons it’s possible for new networks to show up which disrupt the old, such as TikTok. The point is as individuals we are way less dependent on social media than we imagine.

My google search is - "search something" site:reddit.com

Otherwise is just a lot of AI generated results with close to 0 information.

So I disagree.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by paulmd »

0xEF wrote: post #433
joshvm wrote: post #401

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit successfully centralised forums and made it convenient because you didn't need 20+ logins. The other half is link sharing/doom scrolling (the addictive stuff), which replaced Digg, Stumbleupon, etc. In the not-so-distant past if you wanted expert help and non-astroturfed suggestions (or even just memes), that's where you went. Those places still exist for a lot of fields and the experts still hang out (and oft…

This may sound strange (and was equally strange to admit to myself) but I'm looking forward to "mamaging identities acrosz multiple boards" again. My brain seems to be wired to associate each of my hobbies with very different aspects of my personality, and visiting a little "walled" community for whatevet activity suits that current version of myself is a nice way to compartmentalize and stay focused on what I set ou…

"compartmentalizing your life" used to just be called "having a little fucking privacy".

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by stcroixx »

anjel wrote: post #480
coffeefirst wrote: post #296

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Right. I don't really care how the API thing ends. Lower the price, grandfather in some of the big clients for a longer sunset date so they don't have to issue refunds, work out rev-share or per user licensing agreements... whatever. These are solvable problems. But these antics have me thinking I should find alternatives to the very few subs that actually matter. So if anyone knows a good web community for cooking..…

RIP Chowhound.com

Damn. I didn’t know it was gone. That hits hard. Obviously I hadn’t been in a while, but back in the day chowhound made eating my way through Chicago such a blast. That’s really too bad. Thank god the home brew digest still lives.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by paulddraper »

jjulius wrote: post #106
paulddraper wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't seem dishonest to me. Reddit cares more about having an open subreddit then the mods do. This was the obvious conclusion

GP already highlighted the dishonesty, it's here: > if they are no longer interested in moderating that community The mods, as GP stated, are interested in moderating that community, they just disagree with Reddit's changes. They wouldn't be taking the path of shuttering their subs in protest if they didn't give a damn. That is absolutely dishonesty on the part of Reddit.

They are more interested in affordable API access and third party apps than moderating and first party apps.

Not saying that's good or bad, just that it is.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by paulmd »

mandmandam wrote: post #101
moskie wrote: post #76

We (the internet community) made such a terrible mistake with social media. We formed connections and communities and friendships on sites like Facebook and Twitter and Reddit, but those companies need to make money, so those connections are only allowed to exist as long as they are part of a profitable system. How awful it is to reduce human connection to that. To think that I am only allowed to maintain certain soc…

Yes! And they're so incredibly cheap to run, in the scheme of things. They're TEXT and LINKS ffs. Even Snapchat, which deals in video, costs about $2.50 per user per year to run. Honestly, we're some set of dopes to let people like Zuck and Huffman build yachts and apocalypse bunkers, with bloody advertising money, all for the genius idea of sharing text and links on the internet.

> And they're so incredibly cheap to run, in the scheme of things. They're TEXT and LINKS ffs.

stop doing JAVASCRIPT

documents were not meant to be turing-complete

the frontend developers have played us like fools

look at the user-focused experiences they have built for us with our attention-economy revenue:

they have played us like fools

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