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Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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The "minority of whining idiots" are the ones who run reddit with their free labor The "minority of whining idiots" are the ones who developed 3rd party moderation tools because Reddit refused to The "minority of whining idiots" are the ones who run subreddits without pay The "minority of whining idiots" are the ones saying that disabled users can't access the site anymore because of these changes Reddit's entire exi…

Mods are cops, not labor

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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We (the internet community) made such a terrible mistake with social media. We formed connections and communities and friendships on sites like Facebook and Twitter and Reddit, but those companies need to make money, so those connections are only allowed to exist as long as they are part of a profitable system. How awful it is to reduce human connection to that. To think that I am only allowed to maintain certain soc…

What gives me hope is if you ever take a break from social media you realize how worthless it all is. It really doesn’t hurt to disengage. For similar reasons it’s possible for new networks to show up which disrupt the old, such as TikTok. The point is as individuals we are way less dependent on social media than we imagine.

I think this is a fine perspective for inconsequential (-ish) social interactions, but then I start to think about the political organizing that these sites have also facilitated. "The revolution will not be televised" and all that, but... man. I was all over twitter getting real-time information as I participated in Occupy and BLM marches. But, now Elon has it.....

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Reddit has handled this pretty terribly but I also think people are being unreasonable. This is no different than me creating a third party YouTube client, charging for it and displaying no ads. Why would YouTube allow me to do that? And why should Reddit allow third party apps to do that? Reddit screwed up in the first place allowing third party apps that they have zero control over to build a full frontend replacem…

I also agree. I was using the rif premium version. third-party apps removed Reddit's ads and offered a paid version instead. I'm not saying rif is a bad app. It is uch easier to use than the official app. However, it is self-evident that it would have contributed to the deterioration of monetization on the reddit side. It is not a civilized way to blow up huge communities by inciting people and setting fire to their seats because their means of earning deteriorate. Moreover, if the alternative is discord or a service hosted by some random person on the internet.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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At scale that’s relatively expensive though, $2.5x1billion is still 2.5 billion dollars. That money needs to come from somewhere…

Membership fees. If we could get customers used to buying things again, $10/yr or $100/lifetime membership fees seems more than reasonable.

So easy to say, so hard to actually do. Most HN readers wouldn't care about dropping $100 but the fact is Facebook, Reddit, Google users pay $0.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Thing is, I am much more loyal to the mods of my favorite subs, then I'm to reddit. And my guess is, that is the case with a lot of the power users.

9 out of 10 days most Reddit mods are considered the scum of the earth, it's a literal meme at this point how bad a lot of them are. They are the heroes this week because it fits their narrative.

Censorship, power-tripping, running subs with a iron fist, etc

Nobody knows or cares who they are.

As much as they'd like to think they are, the mods are not the community. The community is the people. The people are not there for the mods.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Discord, where everything will be siloed off and then enshittified again :(

That is my prediction as well. It's unfortunate as we'll enter the unindexed web where all that helpful content you can find by appending "reddit" onto any search will no longer be getting produced. All of it hidden in discords, out of sight. Who knows, maybe there will be an easy way to get stuff published out to the proper web. Things like community FAQs or guides that would be broadly of use. I think the loss of t…

Well there already are great ways, but it doesn't matter if the critical mass is in Discord.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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The dishonesty continues. > if they are no longer interested in moderating that community They're still interested. They're just protesting your policies. > [if] at least one mod [...] wants to keep the community going, we will respect their decisions and remove those who no longer want to moderate from the mod team. This one takes the cake. They're dangling a carrot: hey, any low-ranked mod interested in taking over…

Doesn't seem dishonest to me. Reddit cares more about having an open subreddit then the mods do. This was the obvious conclusion

I think the argument is that the impulsive API change will harm many, many subreddits. Does Reddit care about quality content? Or do they care about becoming profitable? I think the mods make a lot more sense than Spez here. And I don't think you can say Reddit cares about keeping subs open if they're willing to watch them all shrivel away in a sea of spam and clickbait bots.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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The dishonesty continues. > if they are no longer interested in moderating that community They're still interested. They're just protesting your policies. > [if] at least one mod [...] wants to keep the community going, we will respect their decisions and remove those who no longer want to moderate from the mod team. This one takes the cake. They're dangling a carrot: hey, any low-ranked mod interested in taking over…

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Wager more care about corporations pushing around a volunteer workforce, though. I'm genuinely surprised by the fatalistic / why bother attitudes expressed here on HN, as if those attitude aren't the dominant factor enabling those outcomes.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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We (the internet community) made such a terrible mistake with social media. We formed connections and communities and friendships on sites like Facebook and Twitter and Reddit, but those companies need to make money, so those connections are only allowed to exist as long as they are part of a profitable system. How awful it is to reduce human connection to that. To think that I am only allowed to maintain certain soc…

This is a great point, and I’m curious to hear what would be better alternatives. Like obviously there’s something great about having online connections with other people, but how could we do it better without surrendering to some big platform?
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