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Re: Tell HN: Locked Google account reopened after two years

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Post by romanhn »

Springtime wrote: post #43

If they are doing this intentionally then it's possibly because they announced they'd be deleting inactive accounts beginning from this month so perhaps they're giving some another chance. It's actually ridiculous the byzantine methods sometimes required to regain access to Google accounts. To even have a chance in such cases—even when a recovery email has already been configured—one has to use the exact browser vers…

Oh wow, I did not know about the upcoming policy to start deleting accounts with two years of inactivity. Thanks for mentioning this! So glad I got through ahead of it. How many people will not...

Re: Tell HN: Locked Google account reopened after two years

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Post by jakub_g »

evmar wrote: post #35
dwaite wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember a boss telling me about his personal experience at Nordstroms, with a lady irate about a set of defective tires she bought. She didn't have a receipt, but the sales clerk said that he was fine with taking them as a return if she could say how much she spent on them. It's worth noting for people who are unfamiliar with the store - while they do sell some home goods in addition to clothing and beauty/jewelry…

FWIW the tire story is a legend from decades ago: https://press.nordstrom.com/news-releases/news-release-detai...

"(...) Nordstrom never sold tires. But in 1975, it purchased three stores from a company that did –Northern Commercial of Alaska. (...) When Nordstrom took over the locations, it narrowed the merchandise mix to apparel and shoes."

Ok now it makes more sense!

Re: Tell HN: Locked Google account reopened after two years

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Post by netsharc »

abdullahkhalids wrote: post #11
valleyer wrote: post #6

Why not download the mail and keep it locally, instead of accessing it only on the whims of Google security EPMs? A standard IMAP client will do this for you easily.

One should do that for all email addresses, even ones that one uses daily. You never know when you will be screwed over by your provider.

I got Yahoo! Mail in the 90's (when they started offering email, the world was so different and I thought a @yahoo.com address was a must have). A few years ago I thought I'd look at emails from my teenage years, and guess what, Yahoo silently lost all my emails before the year 2000/2001.

If only I can find that 20GB IDE disk with all the data I've migrated since my first computer...

Re: Tell HN: Locked Google account reopened after two years

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Post by romanhn »

netsharc wrote: post #53
abdullahkhalids wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One should do that for all email addresses, even ones that one uses daily. You never know when you will be screwed over by your provider.

I got Yahoo! Mail in the 90's (when they started offering email, the world was so different and I thought a @yahoo.com address was a must have). A few years ago I thought I'd look at emails from my teenage years, and guess what, Yahoo silently lost all my emails before the year 2000/2001. If only I can find that 20GB IDE disk with all the data I've migrated since my first computer...

I'd suggest looking again - they might have lost the rest by now if you haven't been using it. They now delete all email if you haven't logged in for a year. I found out first-hand :(

Re: Tell HN: Locked Google account reopened after two years

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Post by jlokier »

mdekkers wrote: post #46
LightHugger wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seemingly without notifying us, google has turned off recovering accounts using the recovery email. Since a few years back they will only ever except phone numbers for this. It's unbelievably stupid.

> It's unbelievably stupid. In other words, they now force you to give them your phone number, which is incredibly valuable to them. It’s unbelievably smart on their part.

It's not smart if you can't given them your phone number because they started requiring your phone number to login before you can give them your phone number.

Re: Tell HN: Locked Google account reopened after two years

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Post by netsharc »

romanhn wrote: post #54
netsharc wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got Yahoo! Mail in the 90's (when they started offering email, the world was so different and I thought a @yahoo.com address was a must have). A few years ago I thought I'd look at emails from my teenage years, and guess what, Yahoo silently lost all my emails before the year 2000/2001. If only I can find that 20GB IDE disk with all the data I've migrated since my first computer...

I'd suggest looking again - they might have lost the rest by now if you haven't been using it. They now delete all email if you haven't logged in for a year. I found out first-hand :(

Nah, I look in it daily, I use it now as the address for online shops, etc. Which is a terrible idea because they can upload their data to Facebook (where I'm also registered with this email) and then both sides have a better marketing profile of me...

Re: Tell HN: Locked Google account reopened after two years

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Post by throwaway67743 »

037 wrote: post #23

I recently decided to trust Apple with my emails after witnessing a friend lose access to his free account due to some mistakes on his part. After he reached out to Apple's customer service, I was genuinely impressed by the helpful and knowledgeable support team. They escalated the issue efficiently through multiple levels, involving several phone calls over a short span of one or two days. What stood out the most wa…

I have the exact polar opposite experience (as I'm sure many do) - as a prior iPhone user (because at the time Android was pretty awful) I obviously had an apple ID and icloud account, fast forward a few years and my remaining Apple device dies, I forgot the number of the temporary sim I had in it etc etc, Apple are still refusing to either change the phone number on my account or erase it (as required by law) without me giving them the full temporary number I had on my last device, which obviously I don't have this far down the line. Apple "support" make no attempt to help they just say no number no deal, so at this point I've had to resort to pointing out their obligations under the law for removing any data and history, still waiting to see what they'll do though.

Even while I was an Apple user their support was variable at best, some issues just would not be resolved (like keychain issues etc, "we don't understand why it's broken sorry, case closed") and would not be escalated.

Re: Tell HN: Locked Google account reopened after two years

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Post by 6510 »

dizhn wrote: post #49
6510 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> When I look at reviews for businesses, I don't look at the 5 star reviews. I look at the 1-2 star reviews, and I look exclusively for reviews that describe _how the business responded to the problem_. This is why it is so valuable to post negative reviews on your competitors. People actually believe this s...[0] > They got her to the vet and paid the bills Doesn't sound fake, it doesn't even need to be. You post a…

What constitutes a real review though? There's a small restaurant I used to go to. The last two times I left after 5-10 minutes of all waiters doing the "if i don't look over there i don't have to work" trick. Each time I went on to Google to write a review. Is this not a legitimate review?

It might be true but if there is no evidence it ever happened it never happened.

What value would you get from reading such a review?

Re: Tell HN: Locked Google account reopened after two years

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Post by brokenmachine »

dwaite wrote: post #30
037 wrote: post #23

I recently decided to trust Apple with my emails after witnessing a friend lose access to his free account due to some mistakes on his part. After he reached out to Apple's customer service, I was genuinely impressed by the helpful and knowledgeable support team. They escalated the issue efficiently through multiple levels, involving several phone calls over a short span of one or two days. What stood out the most wa…

I remember a boss telling me about his personal experience at Nordstroms, with a lady irate about a set of defective tires she bought. She didn't have a receipt, but the sales clerk said that he was fine with taking them as a return if she could say how much she spent on them. It's worth noting for people who are unfamiliar with the store - while they do sell some home goods in addition to clothing and beauty/jewelry…

>presumably because you could otherwise ask for a battery replacement for a devices with a damaged screen and back panel, and pay an order of magnitude less than a repair on the damaged display and back.

So there's no way to get a battery replaced on a device with a damaged display?

Re: Tell HN: Locked Google account reopened after two years

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Post by brokenmachine »

buildbot wrote: post #36
kajecounterhack wrote: post #19

Google takeout is already amazing (especially compared to other companies that offer similar services) but I wish I could incrementally download whatever changed since my last backup. The amount of my data they have is huge, and I'm basically only taking a snapshot once every 6 months at this point. I have to download ~15 50gb files :( (It's almost all from YouTube, Gmail, and Google Photos)

It is extremely not amazing, it continually fails to export my 12tb account. Which is a problem, because in 30 days or so they are going to start enforcing the 5tb limit on workspace accounts, which will prevent me from getting even emails.

Can you break it up into different products on each export?
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