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He’s not using it to treat anyone. He’s using it for generating text that then is (weirdly) read to patients.
These ads for chatgpt are getting incredibly hilarious as of recently. But an improvement over the initial “chatgpt saved my dog’s life” type of nonsense.
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> does anyone actually think that chat gpt succeeds at rewriting things 'compassionately' or 'more intelligently'? I've seen non-native English speakers (co-worker) use it to write lengthy apologies to customers, and I (native speaker) think it sounds over the top sincere and dramatic, especially when the same person tends to talk in a completely different manner. I believe this story, because the customer in this ca…
"and I (native speaker) think it sounds over the top sincere and dramatic, especially when the same person tends to talk in a completely different manner." Of course, you can actually tell ChatGPT to change its style and mannerisms. Here's an example when I was experimenting with this. It went a bit over the top in the other direction, but only because I was so explicit about asking to to be casual. https://chat.open…
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Now it feels kind of neat, and maybe works when others are reading well crafted messages. What happens when everyone has a bot, and a bot is talking to a bot, because I for one, don't want to be sent or fall for emotionally manipulative messages, or that try to sound empathetic, maybe even are empathetic. When this type of messaging is so widespread, I wonder what will happen. I think people will ignore most of this…
The person sending the message is accountable for its content, no matter how it was authored. Maybe I want to be tactful around a delicate issue, but am struggling to find the right words. An LLM can help me. Alternatively, someone who wants to be manipulative and deceitful might also optimize their message using an LLM. The tool is of course not inherently good or evil. But one can use the tool for different moral o…
We know corporate BS when we see it.
And in the example in this post I think the doctor said more or less the same thing to the relatives as the ChatGPT message, the biggest difference was that with the ChatGPT message he sat down with everyone around and reading it out load. Had he stopped and given a few seconds/minutes with all relatives around him and talked with his own words he would reached the same effect.
The other effect is that it was written down. Written texts seems more authoritative than words that just come out of a mouth. So reading from a paper sounds more fact like than just speaking. He could have taken any paper. Or have prepared papers for the most common questions.
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Have worked with many poor communicators and outright idiots but there is virtually no one graduating a decent medical school with native speaker skills that cant explain in simple terms why giving more fluids to someone that is overloaded with fluid is a bad idea (oh and without using any jargon like edema or diuresis, another thing missing in this whole farce, any 1st year let alone decent attending will explain cl…
I disagree with the first part, mostly because I believe doctor-speak is a skill medical professionals use to deal with patients which in their desperation, think they know more than they do. Yet I fully agree with the second paragraph. The idea of the teleprompter doctor working is so absurd it would be rejected immediately if not because chatgpt hype.
Following a script isn't a sign of lacking skills - it's a sign of being wise enough to recognize human limitations. Medical care isn't improv comedy.
This really feels farcical, and kind of like vc bros hyping up a product. Considering this was a serious issue of life and death of a patient, it was surprising how it read like a prank or like the scene from Harold and Kumar, where Kumar plays a fake doctor and saves an ER patient through sheer luck. I know some doctors are full of baloney but c'mon. I really hope maybe that we create better doctors that have a lot…
The concept is right on point though: ChatGPT is excellent at writing "fluffy" pieces full of empathy, compassion, PR talk, politician speech, and any other wordy flavor you need. As an engineer who is unable to produce such writing, this tool is quite helpful!
I think you're putting a bunch of completely different things in the same basket.
Making the text more fluffy will not make it more empathetic, not only (but mainly) because there isn't anyone to empathise with the respondent. Our bullshit receptors are good spotting dishonesty, so it'll just sound cringe, putting it at the same level as PR talk. But that's not empathy or compassion, just cheap and obvious packaging.
> As an engineer who is unable to produce such writing, this tool is quite helpful!
I genuinely thought you were being sarcastic here. Of course you are and you don't need to use more filler words for that.
I do think that there's value in using GPT for training purposes here, that is learning how one could express themselves in a more context appropriate way. This is not much different from stylistic advice, e.g. in many languages a one word yes/no response to a question is considered neutral, whereas in English it can be considered rude/abrupt, so people use question tags more often.
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Putting aside the question of if the linked is fake, I don't necessarily fault medical workers for handling their work dryly. Those doctors and nurses and technicians have to deal with all manners of disgust, biohazards, sadness, and most significantly death each and every single day. I cannot in good faith demand them to treat everyone with empathy, that might as well be psychological torture for the medical workers…
I understand this point. Many doctors I see always being very social, and smiling in public even though they have seen horrors in the ER room, etc. I kind of get a bit of the callous, emotionally stable, and always cheery, positive nature but isn't too emotionally deep (think of the doctor in movies, where they give the bad news with a straight face) they need to have to be able to operate like a robot, ironically en…
That would be good to a degree. Right now, people are constantly falling for maliciously crafted empathetic/emotional messaging, coming from the mounths and from under the pens of journalists, salesmen, politicians, advertisers, pundits, and social media influencers.
In some sense, it's really saddening that people find issue with emotional text written by a bot, while they don't seem to find any problem with being constantly subjected to malicious emotional messages from aforementioned ill-intentioned parties.
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I disagree with the first part, mostly because I believe doctor-speak is a skill medical professionals use to deal with patients which in their desperation, think they know more than they do. Yet I fully agree with the second paragraph. The idea of the teleprompter doctor working is so absurd it would be rejected immediately if not because chatgpt hype.
The teleprompter bit makes no sense. Do you feel less confident in your doctor after learning that any kind of serious treatment usually involves a checklist ? Following a script isn't a sign of lacking skills - it's a sign of being wise enough to recognize human limitations. Medical care isn't improv comedy.
This really feels farcical, and kind of like vc bros hyping up a product. Considering this was a serious issue of life and death of a patient, it was surprising how it read like a prank or like the scene from Harold and Kumar, where Kumar plays a fake doctor and saves an ER patient through sheer luck. I know some doctors are full of baloney but c'mon. I really hope maybe that we create better doctors that have a lot…
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36336615
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36337227
Classic HN to confidently dismiss something in areas we're actually clueless about.