I’d say doc should be expecting a visit from the FDA shortly about his unlicensed medical device.
maybe the FDA is busy visiting every doc that uses google
I’m an ER doctor. Here’s how I’m already using ChatGPT to help treat patients
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Re: I’m an ER doctor. Here’s how I’m already using ChatGPT to help treat patients
#52This really feels farcical, and kind of like vc bros hyping up a product. Considering this was a serious issue of life and death of a patient, it was surprising how it read like a prank or like the scene from Harold and Kumar, where Kumar plays a fake doctor and saves an ER patient through sheer luck. I know some doctors are full of baloney but c'mon. I really hope maybe that we create better doctors that have a lot…
The author is a doctor, but also an executive at a health-focused VC fund, with several AI companies in it's portfolio. Helpful context to have before reading his article I think.
Re: I’m an ER doctor. Here’s how I’m already using ChatGPT to help treat patients
#53This really feels farcical, and kind of like vc bros hyping up a product. Considering this was a serious issue of life and death of a patient, it was surprising how it read like a prank or like the scene from Harold and Kumar, where Kumar plays a fake doctor and saves an ER patient through sheer luck. I know some doctors are full of baloney but c'mon. I really hope maybe that we create better doctors that have a lot…
Putting aside the question of if the linked is fake, I don't necessarily fault medical workers for handling their work dryly.
Those doctors and nurses and technicians have to deal with all manners of disgust, biohazards, sadness, and most significantly death each and every single day. I cannot in good faith demand them to treat everyone with empathy, that might as well be psychological torture for the medical workers.
This isn't to say they shouldn't be courteous, professional, and kind to their patients, that should go without saying.
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#54When you need blithering, ChatGPT is there for you.
You are just in wishful denial about the technological disruption: ChatGPT will rapidly and dramatically increase productivity by displacing human workers.
ChatGPT will automate 99.9% of what's on the Internet, which is blithering, displacing what most human labor is spent on these days, and leaving humans with no demand for their labor but going back to producing accurate, valuable knowledge.
The halcyon days are over. Post-truth technology has followed the typical maturation cycle, and now is at the point that we can automate it. (HN is dead. This post could be written by ChatGPT or a future LLM.)
;) :DDDDDDD
Re: I’m an ER doctor. Here’s how I’m already using ChatGPT to help treat patients
#55If an ER doctor printed an AI-generated script and read it to me while I was in an extremely stressful situation I would punch him in the head. This is disgusting.
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#56> Satisfying HIPAA rules around patient privacy alone may take many years, or decades, to resolve themselves before we could even contemplate directly using programs like ChatGPT in a medical theater. This is easily solved by not using someone else's API. Here's $500 worth of hardware you can get on ebay running Vicuna-13B, locally: > IV fluids may not be the best treatment for someone with severe pulmonary edema and…
You really, really don't want to use inferior models where accuracy is a life or death issue.
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#57Who is surprised that in a match between a doctor's bedside manner and a machine's that a machine wins? The cold metal of a machine is nothing next to the coldness of a doctor's heart! ;)
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#58Experience, Knowledge, Accountability, and Human touch. No amount of "AI" is going to change that and I'm saying that as a software engineer.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Trust but verify". If you can't verify, then don't trust. I've used ChatGPT for short scripts. I can read and test-run scripts to verify their correctness. On the other hand, asking it to do more complex programming is error-prone.
If you have to verify then there is no trust. That's not how trust works. I never liked the phrase.
I agree. I've never liked the phrase either. Even so, I'll take "Trust but verify" as a shorthand for "Accept the output of a somewhat untrustworthy person/process, but verify the output before making use of it."
Sometimes a short, inaccurate phrase wins out over the longer, accurate version.
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#60"Understandably concerned, they hovered around my staff and me, to the point where their constant barrage of requests was actually slowing down treatment. To compound the problem, they were absolutely certain what their mother needed."
This is diagnostics. Doctors do it and so do IT bods (and others) but our patients (computers) dying is a bit of a fiddle rather than a tragedy or catastrophe.
I would not dream of letting CGPT loose on "indications/conta-indications" which is how medics work (IT could learn a lesson or two here instead of the usual "magic" thinking).
CGPT has a learned data set and it is not perfect. It will spit out a series of words given an input. No one can really calculate the output given an input - its non deterministic. It does look like the output is quite intelligent.
I consider CGPT as a really fancy calculator with all the usual caveats: do check the output carefully.