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Dating, education, and sex ratios

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jdietrich wrote: post #292
KptMarchewa wrote: post #266

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The "emotional control" that causes them to absolutely blow the fuck up? It's not unintelligent, primitive or underdeveloped, it's simply a meme, an idea that some people can even sincerely believe but at the end it's a pure lie.

Men experience significantly lower rates of most common mental disorders; that gap is wider in younger people, appears to be widening over time and persists after controlling for confounding variables. Men are more likely to die by suicide, but they're drastically less likely to attempt suicide; the discrepancy is accounted for by men choosing more lethal means. There is simply no evidence to support the idea that wo…

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Post by medvezhenok »

zilti wrote: post #159
paulddraper wrote: post #59

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> Given how difficult it seems for any genuinely universal cultural movement to take off in the dating space ????? Dating culture is substantially different than a decade ago.

Indeed, it, has become substantially worse, even though that seemed almost impossible.

*Worse for the average person, better for the elite. Just another symptom of growing inequality.

As I said in another post, better to be the 10th wife of a prince rather than the 1st wife of a commoner (in a highly unequal society).

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Post by medvezhenok »

dahwolf wrote: post #249
redmerchant2 wrote: post #60

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This is mostly for large cities. As someone who’s lived in many big cities like NYC and London, education and pedigree is extremely important. It’s also about the illusion of choice and “settling” for worse. When you know there are attractive Harvard lawyers, why would you bother with some state school government worker? Now there’s no guarantee these women can actually land the first group but why not try? As ration…

Chasing the top is not rational when considering the very rational fact that the top has options. I'm taken, but if were single, I'd rationally consider myself average-looking to decent. I would not find it rational at all for me to chase a supermodel (if beauty was the selector), I would in fact not try at all. Because rationally, some things are too good to be true.

I would correct that to *chasing the top can be rational under certain assumptions.

The worse the inequality gets in society, the more rational it is to chase the top, in fact - specifically for women. As I wrote in another comment, it can be better to be the Nth wife of a prince rather than the first wife of a commoner (if you're optimizing for the survival/fitness of your offspring, albeit unconsciously).

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Post by shrimp_emoji »

akomtu wrote: post #258
shrimp_emoji wrote: post #247

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Woah. The Ancient Greeks did the metal thing too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_Man Maybe it was an even earlier Proto-Indo-European meme that radiated out to everyone.

Speaking of Greeks, they believed that such universal ideas come from the world of ideas, or the world of archetypes; great thinkers merely perceive this world, and that's why different cultures seemingly by accident end up with the same ideas in their "books of wisdom". In this worldview, the achievement of greek or indian philosophers isn't creating the idea of the four ages, but expressing it in the limited though…

They were wrong; it's all from the Proto-Indo-Europeans.

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Post by inglor_cz »

dahwolf wrote: post #420
oh_sigh wrote: post #408

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A male friend of mine is 5'3" tall, no college education, and sells pottery for a living - and didn't make much money doing it, based on his apartment. He's also hilarious and kind. Anyway, he met and married a 5'10", attractive woman who is a principal at a PE firm and semi-professionally competes in salsa dancing competitions.

Happy for them, this should happen more. But an exception does not negate the broad pattern.

Sense of humor cuts right through a lot of obstacles. Plenty of women will feel attracted to you if you can make them laugh often.

But, of course, you have to meet up first, and the Tinder generation may not pass this first obstacle.

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inglor_cz wrote: post #425
dahwolf wrote: post #420

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Happy for them, this should happen more. But an exception does not negate the broad pattern.

Sense of humor cuts right through a lot of obstacles. Plenty of women will feel attracted to you if you can make them laugh often. But, of course, you have to meet up first, and the Tinder generation may not pass this first obstacle.

Wise words. When seeing a person in public they are so infinitely more rich compared to 3 filters in an app. But there doesn't seem to be any sign of this returning in big ways.

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Post by sangnoir »

dantheman wrote: post #416
sangnoir wrote: post #176

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IIRC, there is a strong correlation with higher education (rather than the job itself) - it's just that most professors have PhDs.

It's not so much level of education but lack of real world experience. PhDs in industry or outside of the Academy are very different.

> PhDs in industry or outside of the Academy are very different.

...but they all skew more liberal than those who have master's degrees, who in skew more liberal than those with honors degrees - and so forth until you get to those who are barely educated. This trend persists even when the individuals involved are not in academia.

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Manuel_D wrote: post #413
politician wrote: post #406

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Since you raised concerns about the climate, I'm going to assume you agree with the concept that when people exploit the environment (e.g. nickel mines) it takes a long time for the environment to recover (thousands or millions of years). The environment is a resource for humanity since we need it to survive and it has a particular regeneration rate. Similarly, humans need the production of humanity to survive, let's…

So Japanese, South Koreans, and Italians are living in the Handmaid's Tale? They're being "literally farmed"? SK has a birth rate of 0.8, less than half the replacement rate. The rate of "defectors" is well above to 20% unsustainable figure you claim. You're making some very wild statements about something plenty of developed countries are already experiencing. Back here in reality, humans have not needed significant…

You’re not reading and are reacting emotionally. I said farming happens when the 99% need the 1% to do all reproduction. If you want me to take your response seriously, I’d appreciate an apology.

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Post by midoridensha »

YellOh wrote: post #388
midoridensha wrote: post #347

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I don't think is a good comparison. Native Americans couldn't join the colonists because the colonists were very racist against them, whereas apparently the Natives were more accepting of colonists who wanted to join them.

"...when white persons of either sex have been taken prisoners young by the Indians, and lived a while among them, tho’ ransomed by their Friends, and treated with all imaginable tenderness to prevail with them to stay among the English, yet in a Short time they become disgusted with our manner of life, and the care and pains that are necessary to support it, and take the first good Opportunity of escaping again into…

>I don't think "Natives were less racist" is a convincing explanation for...

No, it doesn't explain that part at all. It does explain why the Natives never tried joining and integrating into the white colonial society.

Honestly, I'm curious why white people who had been taken prisoner wanted to go back so badly, but sadly, I doubt anyone ever asked them and then accurately recorded their testimony for people to read 250 years later.

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