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APIs for content sites must be free

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Re: APIs for content sites must be free

#31
API for the content I write? No thanks. It takes a few seconds for a scammer to copy the content and apply their *** referral links to my content.

Let's remember that OpenAI made part of the profit thanks to the data they acquired from crawling the websites (not directly by OpenAI, but some other parties).

Re: APIs for content sites must be free

#32
post #13

I like vehement arguments even when I disagree with them. Based on this man's logic, if I were to run a web forum then I must provide an API or data dump to download the posts created by the users? How about a comment section on my blog? How about a community Discord server? Why not Facebook posts? Or Instagram stories? I often get the feeling that in these circumstances people derive first principles from specific d…

I’ve seen a lot of arguments that users are the folks who provide the value/ content of Reddit and so somehow Reddit must respond to their wishes.

And I like that idea, a great deal.

Although I have to note that users have given Reddit that content to use, for FREE, and continue to do so. They do this elsewhere too, including sites where they say don’t like the site administration, Twitter, etc…

So I’m not really sure how this plays out.

Re: APIs for content sites must be free

#33
post #13

I like vehement arguments even when I disagree with them. Based on this man's logic, if I were to run a web forum then I must provide an API or data dump to download the posts created by the users? How about a comment section on my blog? How about a community Discord server? Why not Facebook posts? Or Instagram stories? I often get the feeling that in these circumstances people derive first principles from specific d…

but you can access every single shitpost from the website, so why not from API? it's lighter

Because others use automatic ways to retrieve the data and derive value from it without paying anything

Re: APIs for content sites must be free

#34
post #13

I like vehement arguments even when I disagree with them. Based on this man's logic, if I were to run a web forum then I must provide an API or data dump to download the posts created by the users? How about a comment section on my blog? How about a community Discord server? Why not Facebook posts? Or Instagram stories? I often get the feeling that in these circumstances people derive first principles from specific d…

but you can access every single shitpost from the website, so why not from API? it's lighter

Because you can't include ads in an API response

Re: APIs for content sites must be free

#35
I think the entirety of their argument is:

> social media sites don’t produce content. They merely host it. Millions of users create the content expecting it will be widely available.

?

But this feels pretty simplistic. Not convinced that people do (or should) upload content expecting they or anyone else can access it however they want.

If you create the content then it's obviously yours forever. If you also decide post it to a platform, why is it the platform's social responsibility to allow access to that content for free.

Re: APIs for content sites must be free

#37
post #13

I like vehement arguments even when I disagree with them. Based on this man's logic, if I were to run a web forum then I must provide an API or data dump to download the posts created by the users? How about a comment section on my blog? How about a community Discord server? Why not Facebook posts? Or Instagram stories? I often get the feeling that in these circumstances people derive first principles from specific d…

I don't think your arguments accurately cover the OP's argument at all. The key distinction is literally the first sentence: "Social media businesses should not charge* for APIs."

If you have a community [whatever] service that would not be a business. If you have a blog, that's could potentially be a very business-adjacent, but I'd argue it doesn't cover the "social media" qualification, so that also doesn't apply.

If you run a business and much of your content is user-generated (because it's a social media site), the OP is arguing that API access should be free/at cost.

Re: APIs for content sites must be free

#40
It's been kind of interesting to see this play out in real time: it's clearly a board level reaction at these companies to OpenAI essentially scraping these companies, running a model over their content, and then essentially disintermediating them.

And when you ask ChatGPT you're (marginally) less likely to be chided by someone telling you you're an idiot for asking the question in the first place.

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