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Re: Serotonin booster leads to increased functional brain connectivity

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Post by pradn »

tnel77 wrote: post #190
bedobi wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> intelligent people fall into where they think their intelligence in one area means they’re qualified to make assessments or reach conclusions in fields outside of their own you're describing 99.99% of hackernews, lol (and I'm not even sure people here are that intelligent in the first place) (in case anyone is reading this thinking I'm saying I'm intelligent, rest assured I'm not)

I like HackerNews because the conversations are mostly intelligent and polite. Not always, but it’s far better than my experience with Twitter and Reddit.

HN comments have an air of authority because we so frequently do see reasoned, expert opinions. But it's still hard to mix up mere speculation, shooting-from-the-hip thoughts and well-thought-out comments. It's more pernicious here. On other sites, we routinely see incredibly low-effort and naive comments so we're on guard more: there's simply more mixed-up communities/contexts with different standards to train us to be more skeptical.

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Post by boc »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #178
pr0zac wrote: post #73

I’ll probably be downvoted for pointing this out but I feel like it’s important. 90% of the comments at the time of my posting this are great examples of the logical fallacy a lot of intelligent people fall into where they think their intelligence in one area means they’re qualified to make assessments or reach conclusions in fields outside of their own. This would be the same error in judgment that’s turned the noot…

The health podcast industry is making this problem even worse. Many people consume content like Huberman’s podcast and assume he’s an expert because he speaks so confidently and at such lengths. Yet Huberman’s podcasts are well known to contain a lot of errors on very basic concepts and extreme exaggerations. He appears to well-versed in topics related to his domain of study, albeit with exaggerations of his findings…

What are your opinions on Peter Attia’s podcast? They seem similar but it’s impossible for a lay person to judge if they’re trustworthy.

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Post by rubicon33 »

otikik wrote: post #62
DiscourseFan wrote: post #19

Something in our industrial processes must be screwing with people's serotonin levels because Psychedelics and other serotenergic drugs are becoming the defacto treatment method for a whole host of ailments. I personally suffer from IBS, migraines, sleeping problems, and mood swings, if I haven't taken a dose of psychedelics in the last 6 months. Now, getting regular exercise, eating well, staying hydrated, sleeping…

Physical exercise for me is primarily a way to make my body produce drugs, to be in a better mood and sleep better. All the other benefits are icing on the cake.

Anecdotal warning that this effect may reduce with age.

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Post by PragmaticPulp »

tnel77 wrote: post #190
bedobi wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> intelligent people fall into where they think their intelligence in one area means they’re qualified to make assessments or reach conclusions in fields outside of their own you're describing 99.99% of hackernews, lol (and I'm not even sure people here are that intelligent in the first place) (in case anyone is reading this thinking I'm saying I'm intelligent, rest assured I'm not)

I like HackerNews because the conversations are mostly intelligent and polite. Not always, but it’s far better than my experience with Twitter and Reddit.

> I like HackerNews because the conversations are mostly intelligent and polite

Comment sections like this one highlight the risks of mistaking comments that look intelligent and polite for authority. The number of confident, polite posts in this comment section that are giving out factually incorrect information is incredible. Someone down below was speculating about this drug’s cardiotoxicity in ways that could be dismissed within 15 seconds of reading the Wikipedia page, but they presented their speculation as if it had an air of scientific authority.

The number of commenters trying to suggest that psychedelics, which do not interact with the 5-HT4 receptor studied in this article, are a substitute for this drug or otherwise should be used for this indication is astounding.

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Post by p_j_w »

freedomben wrote: post #164
Palomides wrote: post #97

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HN comments are absolute garbage on anything medical, endless uneducated "theories" and emotional anecdotes you don't need to share your personal backstory, everyone knows someone with mental health or cancer or alzheimer's, your idea that DNA is like compiled code makes me think you should go read a book, and your self-medication is probably not scientifically founded

> your idea that DNA is like compiled code makes me think you should go read a book, and your self-medication is probably not scientifically founded You're not wrong, but I think this goes against the hacker spirit on which HN is based. People who are curious, like to think, and like to make having a discussion. The theories may be unscientific, but the journey is worth something too. People should definitely maintai…

>I think we'd lose something if we weren't able to throw out potentially dumb ideas and have other smart people shoot them down and tell us why we're wrong.

The issue you'll run into here is there aren't enough professionals in field X on HN to adequately do this, so it just turns into software engineers throwing a bunch of ideas around, and probably bad ones!

>I think of it much the way I do when I read philosophy. Go on this thought journey with somebody. Try to understand their position/arguments, try to refute them, then read the refutations of others and repeat.

I think to really understand something you need to engage with an actual living human on the matter.

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Post by p_j_w »

pgt wrote: post #185
pr0zac wrote: post #73

I’ll probably be downvoted for pointing this out but I feel like it’s important. 90% of the comments at the time of my posting this are great examples of the logical fallacy a lot of intelligent people fall into where they think their intelligence in one area means they’re qualified to make assessments or reach conclusions in fields outside of their own. This would be the same error in judgment that’s turned the noot…

Instead of appealing to authority, could you please try to refute some of the logical fallacies that you claim are being made in the comments?

GP is not appealing to authority, he/she is advising caution based on the fact that HN is not largely made up of medical professionals.

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Post by bedobi »

tnel77 wrote: post #190
bedobi wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> intelligent people fall into where they think their intelligence in one area means they’re qualified to make assessments or reach conclusions in fields outside of their own you're describing 99.99% of hackernews, lol (and I'm not even sure people here are that intelligent in the first place) (in case anyone is reading this thinking I'm saying I'm intelligent, rest assured I'm not)

I like HackerNews because the conversations are mostly intelligent and polite. Not always, but it’s far better than my experience with Twitter and Reddit.

Agreed, the discourse here tends to be more polite, but as others have already pointed out, there's an insane amount of intelligent sounding, authoritative sounding content and comments here that are actually complete nonsense. Which is totally fine when talking about inconsequential things, but not when it comes to economics, medicine etc etc, lol.

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Post by treeman79 »

freehorse wrote: post #37
alwayslikethis wrote: post #25

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One warning about 5-HTP here. It seems that it can be potentially cardiotoxic at higher doses, or so as I read.

This warning can never be overstated for 5-HTP. Higher doses/longer term use can have a lot of negative effects in the heart, as well as in the serotonin and dopamine system (even up to serotonin syndrome in the most extreme cases). A major problem is that the body does not have mechanisms to regulate conversion of 5-HTP to serotonin (5-HT), which is not a really good property of a supplement. One should do their sea…

Had a couple rounds of serotonin syndrome. (pharmacy didn’t catch that two drugs I was on were interacting)

Very scary. Rage quit my job due to a round of it. Was completely freaking out, but had no idea why. I’m normally super chill.

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Post by hammock »

pr0zac wrote: post #73

I’ll probably be downvoted for pointing this out but I feel like it’s important. 90% of the comments at the time of my posting this are great examples of the logical fallacy a lot of intelligent people fall into where they think their intelligence in one area means they’re qualified to make assessments or reach conclusions in fields outside of their own. This would be the same error in judgment that’s turned the noot…

> they think their intelligence in one area means they’re qualified to make assessments or reach conclusions in fields outside of their own

That's not what intelligence is. General intelligence is general, and can (generally) be safely generalized. When you said "intelligence in one area" did you mean "experience"?

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Post by pgt »

p_j_w wrote: post #206
pgt wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instead of appealing to authority, could you please try to refute some of the logical fallacies that you claim are being made in the comments?

GP is not appealing to authority, he/she is advising caution based on the fact that HN is not largely made up of medical professionals.

That is an appeal to authority.
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