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EU suggests breaking up Google's ad business in preliminary antitrust ruling
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Re: EU suggests breaking up Google's ad business in preliminary antitrust ruling
#32These rulings for a company of Google's stature/importance are always funny to me. How quickly would public opinion change if Google decided to just shut off their service in the EU for a day? Monopolistic breakups that serve the public's best interest are one thing. But how many people actually care that Google might represent a monopoly? Does it actually affect people negatively if the result is a positive online u…
I would love to see Google leaving Europe. I bet within a few weeks proper maybe even better replacements appear in Europe. Maybe even one of mine :)
Google is an ad company. None of its services are critical to maintain a stable society. I would even argue that Europe would be better of without the American tech giants.
Re: EU suggests breaking up Google's ad business in preliminary antitrust ruling
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you give a reasonable argument why they shouldn't? I'm not sure you're making the point you think you're making.
They think that Google doesn't have enough competition right? So they want to regulate their markets. But as we know, Google's entire business is hugely threatened by LLMs. Over time, all companies die and get outcompeted. Google won't be any different. You don't have to regulate.
Are you replying to the correct comment? What you've written is completely unrelated to mine.
Re: EU suggests breaking up Google's ad business in preliminary antitrust ruling
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you give a reasonable argument why they shouldn't? I'm not sure you're making the point you think you're making.
They think that Google doesn't have enough competition right? So they want to regulate their markets. But as we know, Google's entire business is hugely threatened by LLMs. Over time, all companies die and get outcompeted. Google won't be any different. You don't have to regulate.
I don't think this is a very healthy approach. This is similar to saying that we shouldn't regulate what chemicals companies put into food because eventually the companies die and it won't be a problem. We want things to get better now, not in some abstract far away future.
Re: EU suggests breaking up Google's ad business in preliminary antitrust ruling
#35These rulings for a company of Google's stature/importance are always funny to me. How quickly would public opinion change if Google decided to just shut off their service in the EU for a day? Monopolistic breakups that serve the public's best interest are one thing. But how many people actually care that Google might represent a monopoly? Does it actually affect people negatively if the result is a positive online u…
>How quickly would public opinion change if Google decided to just shut off their service in the EU for a day?
It would rather prove the point that they're a monopoly that needs breaking up.
It's in google's best interest not to highlight how much power they have with their current monopoly.
Re: EU suggests breaking up Google's ad business in preliminary antitrust ruling
#36These rulings for a company of Google's stature/importance are always funny to me. How quickly would public opinion change if Google decided to just shut off their service in the EU for a day? Monopolistic breakups that serve the public's best interest are one thing. But how many people actually care that Google might represent a monopoly? Does it actually affect people negatively if the result is a positive online u…
I don't think either one of those points are true. The result of unregulated Google is most definitely not a positive online experience, it's rampant tracking and hoarding of information, both of which have had very real negative real world consequences. Similarly, the world does not "run on Google", what does that even mean? Gmail is but one email provider out of many. Google search is the largest player in the spac…
> it's rampant tracking and hoarding of information, both of which have had very real negative real world consequences
Namely? I can’t imagine any real world consequences that aren’t positives? I am better served for my preferences?
Re: EU suggests breaking up Google's ad business in preliminary antitrust ruling
#37These rulings for a company of Google's stature/importance are always funny to me. How quickly would public opinion change if Google decided to just shut off their service in the EU for a day? Monopolistic breakups that serve the public's best interest are one thing. But how many people actually care that Google might represent a monopoly? Does it actually affect people negatively if the result is a positive online u…
Allowing a giant supercorperation to exist is generally not in the interest of the public.
Google has been using the incomparable amount of money they have in many ways that do not serve the interests of anyone but themselves.
Allowing one company to own the most visited websites, the most used browser, the most used advertising tools + marketplace, half of the mobile market and much more has not really brought us a lot of good.
Their search service quality has decreased massively in recent years. Google searches for products are basically useless as all of the results are SEO optimized AI compiled listicles with amazon ref links, you can basically only find relevant info by adding "reddit" to the end of your search.
Saying "see how you do without google for a day" is the same as saying "see how you would do without electricity for a day". They have worked very hard to become infrastructure, rather than a service.
Re: EU suggests breaking up Google's ad business in preliminary antitrust ruling
#38>EU is “concerned that Google has made it harder for rival online advertising services to compete in the so-called ad tech stack.” There are plenty of competitors in the ad tech space. China created TikTok. Korea created KaoKaoTalk. Even Japan created Line. Meanwhile, the EU, for all it's antitrust regulation, hasn't created anything substantial. Perhaps, it's the burdensome regulation that's the problem.
Well said.
Europe creates a high amount of regulation. The startup industry gets completely stifled and unable to compete with US nor China. So all they do now is add more regulation.
Re: EU suggests breaking up Google's ad business in preliminary antitrust ruling
#39As expected, the comments here seem generally in support of such a move. But, it is really unclear to me how such a move would improve my life or the lives of most typical users. Genuinely open to having it explained to me.
Re: EU suggests breaking up Google's ad business in preliminary antitrust ruling
#40These rulings for a company of Google's stature/importance are always funny to me. How quickly would public opinion change if Google decided to just shut off their service in the EU for a day? Monopolistic breakups that serve the public's best interest are one thing. But how many people actually care that Google might represent a monopoly? Does it actually affect people negatively if the result is a positive online u…
> How quickly would public opinion change if Google decided to just shut off their service in the EU for a day? Always this same old tune. Do you realize how outlandish and naive it is to even suggest that? Google is fighting tooth and nail to make sure that EU laws are laxist. You know why? Because they know that they will have to comply, in the end. The market is just too big to let go of. And I don't think you're…
My point, though, is where do we draw the line between antitrust enforcement because it serves the public's best interest, and enforcement that results in a net negative experience?