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Reddit CEO tells employees that subreddit blackout ‘will pass’

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Re: Reddit CEO tells employees that subreddit blackout ‘will pass’

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Post by Asdrubalini »

joecot wrote: post #192
Asdrubalini wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I personally woudn't mind not having moderators, as the ones we have at the moment are really bad and have pushed their political views in apparently impartial subs (like /r/politics).

I think the general reddit community underestimates how important moderation is. Yes, you have some moderators who go overboard, push a personal agenda on something that's supposed to be a neutral subreddit, etc. But subreddits without active moderation very quickly (in order of increasing tragedy) lose their focus, get overtaken by spam, or become hangouts for Nazis. reddit closes unmoderated subs for a reason. Also…

I don't want zero moderation, I just want good moderation, which is not the case when you have a few mods that push their agenda over many enormous subs.

Re: Reddit CEO tells employees that subreddit blackout ‘will pass’

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Post by smsm42 »

crznp wrote: post #188
smsm42 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not so silly if they are sure they'll crush the opposition. If they are convinced the boycotts are powerless, then the sooner they demonstrate it, the better.

Reddit's main asset is its community, so it is odd to cast the community as their opposition.

Looks like they either don't see the community as an asset, or don't see the protestors as part of the community. In either case, they do not think the opinion of the people protesting matters enough to change anything.

Re: Reddit CEO tells employees that subreddit blackout ‘will pass’

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Post by rizzaxc »

thegreatdukd wrote: post #151
TheFreim wrote: post #106

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This is the entire point of the blackout, make reddit unusable to demonstrate that damage to reddit can be done if they don't change their plans.

I care about basketball, not about API costs and I don't find mod's job that much useful for aggregating daily threads on results and most recent NBA relevant tweets.

so you care about having a place to gather, to talk about your hobby and usually at the mods' effort to aggregate content (I assume since these are always the most upvoted and most commented threads on match day), but you don't find their job "that much useful"?

Re: Reddit CEO tells employees that subreddit blackout ‘will pass’

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Post by ebiester »

Asdrubalini wrote: post #182
joecot wrote: post #157

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The problem is that reddit's entire system depends on unpaid labor from volunteer moderators. And they just pissed a lot of those moderators off. Yeah, reddit can reopen those subreddits if they want to and kick the mods. But who are they going to get to moderate it? They can't afford to hire staff to moderate themselves, reddit is already unprofitable. Are they going to do an application process for scab mods? That…

I personally woudn't mind not having moderators, as the ones we have at the moment are really bad and have pushed their political views in apparently impartial subs (like /r/politics).

I mean, why not create your own subreddit then? All you have to do is create it with a small group of people to see it, post good articles, and keep a 24/7 watch to kill the comment and post spam going to viagra and obvious trash.

Re: Reddit CEO tells employees that subreddit blackout ‘will pass’

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Post by favorited »

MuffinFlavored wrote: post #62
TheFreim wrote: post #9

If the blackout is only for two days then they're right, but if they continue indefinitely it could force a change (reddit is currently unusable since all but one sub I enjoy is gone, if it was gone indefinitely then reddit would be indefinitely out of the picture for me).

> If the blackout is only for two days then they're right Yeah... I don't know the tradeoffs at play but 2 days is... extremely insignificant / probably a bad decision by all of the moderators? It sends a message sure but, it's a bunch of "whiny reddit mods" versus C-level executives in a "help us make API more affordable versus help us not lose a ton of money offering generous free API hosting/usage" negotiation. Ho…

> They are in the business of making money.

Sounds like they're pretty bad at it, then. 4 days ago, their CEO claimed that Reddit is not profitable.

https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/addressing_...

Re: Reddit CEO tells employees that subreddit blackout ‘will pass’

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Post by FemmeAndroid »

George83728 wrote: post #199
kibwen wrote: post #117

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...Except that /r/ModCoord does have other venues, like the Discord linked in the sidebar. They mirror announcements to Reddit because that's the only place that's guaranteed to reach everyone involved, who are on Reddit by definition.

If they don't need reddit, then they should stop using it to demonstrate that point. > "I'm not addicted, I can quit anytime I want." > "Okay then, prove it and quit today." > "....No."

> If they don't need reddit, then they should stop using it to demonstrate that point.

Why wouldn’t you use every available, easy to use mechanism to broadcast a message? Clearly the actual organizing is happening on a variety of channels including Discord.

Re: Reddit CEO tells employees that subreddit blackout ‘will pass’

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Post by George83728 »

FranzFerdiNaN wrote: post #48
adrr wrote: post #36

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They’ll just replace the mods if the popular subreddits go longer than 2 days.

Good luck finding hundreds of new mods.

Are you kidding? There's no shortage of would-be petty tyrants willing to work for free to get a little taste of power. Insofar as the current mods think they're better than this, they're just getting high off their own farts.

Re: Reddit CEO tells employees that subreddit blackout ‘will pass’

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Post by Asdrubalini »

ebiester wrote: post #204
Asdrubalini wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I personally woudn't mind not having moderators, as the ones we have at the moment are really bad and have pushed their political views in apparently impartial subs (like /r/politics).

I mean, why not create your own subreddit then? All you have to do is create it with a small group of people to see it, post good articles, and keep a 24/7 watch to kill the comment and post spam going to viagra and obvious trash.

I'm not interested in unpaid labour, I barely have time to do the paid one.

Re: Reddit CEO tells employees that subreddit blackout ‘will pass’

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Post by angrydev »

QuarterRoy wrote: post #5

I think he went about this completely in the wrong way and comes off as arrogant but on this I agree. Many subs that didn’t go dark still seem to have plenty of participants and people need their digital crack. I don’t see this being a digg moment for Reddit.

Tend to agree with your final thought. The web is so different than it was in 2010, yes there are some promising newcomers but our expectations of a service are radically different in 2023. Also want to note there seems to be a general sentiment of fatigue regarding Reddit and social media in general.

But I do want to selfishly drop this gem from the founder of digg on the eve of their destruction, which mirrors so closely the quote from this memo https://twitter.com/kevinrose/status/22543843421

Re: Reddit CEO tells employees that subreddit blackout ‘will pass’

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Post by Atotalnoob »

favorited wrote: post #205
MuffinFlavored wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If the blackout is only for two days then they're right Yeah... I don't know the tradeoffs at play but 2 days is... extremely insignificant / probably a bad decision by all of the moderators? It sends a message sure but, it's a bunch of "whiny reddit mods" versus C-level executives in a "help us make API more affordable versus help us not lose a ton of money offering generous free API hosting/usage" negotiation. Ho…

> They are in the business of making money. Sounds like they're pretty bad at it, then. 4 days ago, their CEO claimed that Reddit is not profitable. https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/addressing_...

Cause he 10x'd their headcount.

If he kept headcount low like craigslist, wikipedia, etc. They would probably be profitable

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