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Cheering for them to do that for r/nba already. Mods blacked out the sub on the last day of the NBA finals. Zero common sense.
This is the entire point of the blackout, make reddit unusable to demonstrate that damage to reddit can be done if they don't change their plans.
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Cheering for them to do that for r/nba already. Mods blacked out the sub on the last day of the NBA finals. Zero common sense.
This is the entire point of the blackout, make reddit unusable to demonstrate that damage to reddit can be done if they don't change their plans.
If the blackout is only for two days then they're right, but if they continue indefinitely it could force a change (reddit is currently unusable since all but one sub I enjoy is gone, if it was gone indefinitely then reddit would be indefinitely out of the picture for me).
> If the blackout is only for two days then they're right Yeah... I don't know the tradeoffs at play but 2 days is... extremely insignificant / probably a bad decision by all of the moderators? It sends a message sure but, it's a bunch of "whiny reddit mods" versus C-level executives in a "help us make API more affordable versus help us not lose a ton of money offering generous free API hosting/usage" negotiation. Ho…
I believe they aim for selling API access to AI companies, for (re)training data. Third party apps are just taking collateral damage.
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This is the entire point of the blackout, make reddit unusable to demonstrate that damage to reddit can be done if they don't change their plans.
I care about basketball, not about API costs and I don't find mod's job that much useful for aggregating daily threads on results and most recent NBA relevant tweets.
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I don’t doubt they’ll have people lining up out the door to be mods… whether someone you picked with zero vetting because you’re in dire straits is going to be a good mod though is very doubtful. I can see things going very sour if they choose to replace long standing mods.
> someone you picked with zero vetting As opposed to the current state of affairs, where it is someone you didn't pick, also with zero vetting.
The current set of volunteer mods are by far Reddit's largest asset - especially on the major subs.
If the blackout is only for two days then they're right, but if they continue indefinitely it could force a change (reddit is currently unusable since all but one sub I enjoy is gone, if it was gone indefinitely then reddit would be indefinitely out of the picture for me).
At some point, if they remain closed, Reddit will just take ownership of them, suspend the mods and reopen the reddits. They will however need to do it carefully, probably after most others have folded and reopened, so as not to cause another blackout. But ultimately it's their platform, they can do what they want. Maybe they will just have to start actually employing the mods, which may actually end up a net positiv…
If the blackout is only for two days then they're right, but if they continue indefinitely it could force a change (reddit is currently unusable since all but one sub I enjoy is gone, if it was gone indefinitely then reddit would be indefinitely out of the picture for me).
At some point, if they remain closed, Reddit will just take ownership of them, suspend the mods and reopen the reddits. They will however need to do it carefully, probably after most others have folded and reopened, so as not to cause another blackout. But ultimately it's their platform, they can do what they want. Maybe they will just have to start actually employing the mods, which may actually end up a net positiv…
Yeah, reddit can reopen those subreddits if they want to and kick the mods. But who are they going to get to moderate it? They can't afford to hire staff to moderate themselves, reddit is already unprofitable. Are they going to do an application process for scab mods? That will be an extremely unpopular fiasco.
The end result is either reddit capitulating, or becoming an absolute shell of its former self. Most likely they will compromise, charging third party apps for API access but an amount that is feasible. That is capitulation, because the entire point was to kill the third party apps entirely. There's a reason that all their compromises so far revolve around still supporting the third party moderation and accessibility tools. They want the moderators, they need the moderators, they very much want to be done with third party clients.
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They’ll just replace the mods if the popular subreddits go longer than 2 days.
Good luck finding hundreds of new mods.
That means they'll let these subs go dark, claim they're unmoderated (even though they could take over them right now), and expand their internal moderation team.
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> Why should they foot the bill for the API calls? So they have to crack down on some 3rd party apps we all took for granted and kill a few apps off. Sucks but at the end of the day, will it really matter in 6 months? This would be all fine and well if their official app weren't garbage. They do everything in their power to push you to the mobile app, but they seemingly haven't improved it since its inception.
> This would be all fine and well if their official app weren't garbage It's not garbage. I've used it for years. It's fine. Try not being dramatic online / feeding into the narrative that so and so app is garbage or not / parroting other things people say / being picky.
comforting to know he lies to his employees the same way he lies to would-be partners and users
reddark currently shows over 8000 subreddits as "dark" and that is under-counting. It uses the API to determine status, but only checks from a list of subs that notified of their plan to go dark.