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>The peasants are restless but don't worry they throw tantrums often and have short memories. Fuck 'em cause advertising money is still rolling in
Also quite amused that he thinks a couple of mod tool improvements are the solution.
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Good luck finding hundreds of new mods.
I suspect they're already moderating more subs than they lead on publicly. I see no way the big subs that have remained open aren't being moderated by someone on Reddit's payroll. That means they'll let these subs go dark, claim they're unmoderated (even though they could take over them right now), and expand their internal moderation team.
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What the 2 day blackout does is it nudges people to explore alternatives. With this, Reddit management has lowered the barriers to exit. When the next boycott comes, migration for many subreddits will be easier.
no it doesn't, I have barely even noticed there is a blackout because there is plenty of content from non blacked out subs. The only thing I've noticed is when I try to visit subreddits I like some of them are blacked out. A 2 day blackout does literally nothing, just virtue signaling
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It isn't irony at all. Reddit gets almost zero revenue from the sub organizing it. People aren't protesting Reddit in general, but a policy of reddit.
The irony is that there is no viable alternative platform for the mods to organize on, demonstrating that Reddit has the market position to set high prices if they want to.
Got a chuckle from him addressing his employees with a "Hi Snoos". Am I the only one surprised how hard they are doubling down on this?
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At some point, if they remain closed, Reddit will just take ownership of them, suspend the mods and reopen the reddits. They will however need to do it carefully, probably after most others have folded and reopened, so as not to cause another blackout. But ultimately it's their platform, they can do what they want. Maybe they will just have to start actually employing the mods, which may actually end up a net positiv…
The problem is that reddit's entire system depends on unpaid labor from volunteer moderators. And they just pissed a lot of those moderators off. Yeah, reddit can reopen those subreddits if they want to and kick the mods. But who are they going to get to moderate it? They can't afford to hire staff to moderate themselves, reddit is already unprofitable. Are they going to do an application process for scab mods? That…
I don't understand why reddit didn't respond to the initial criticism by decreasing the pricing/demands and just slowly implementing what they want over time. Doing it all at once seemed like a silly move.
What I don't understand is why they simply don't do what spotify does. Free acounts have to use the official spotify apps but paid accounts can use third party apps and apis as part of their subscription benefits. I would gladly pay for reddit gold monthly if I got to keep using my ad-free 3rd party client of my choice.
A paid tier lets you easily identify which of your users have disposable income, and then you can sell the ability to advertise to them at a huge premium.
Spotify's advertisements are quite different because they're basically worthless. Nobody wants to pay money to advertise to broke people. Their free tier exists merely as a funnel; the advertisements function as intentional annoyances to nudge people into paying for a subscription.
can someone help me understand what's the core of the issue is? is it because they are now charging for APIs which used to be free? i hope that's the not the issue because that's not a sustainable business. third party apps can grow revenue using Reddit's contents and Reddit don't see a penny from them. if the issue is the amount Reddit charge per call, why can't those third party apps charge their users more based o…
How much is Reddit worth to pay for only on mobile and with a degraded (no NSFW) experience?
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Reddit will simply replace the mods if this becomes more than an annoyance.
For heavily moderated communities (eg r/AskHistorians or even dang here on HN), I think it's a mistake to treat mods as fungible. For better or worse, moderation sets the tone and timbre of the community.
If the blackout is only for two days then they're right, but if they continue indefinitely it could force a change (reddit is currently unusable since all but one sub I enjoy is gone, if it was gone indefinitely then reddit would be indefinitely out of the picture for me).
> If the blackout is only for two days then they're right Yeah... I don't know the tradeoffs at play but 2 days is... extremely insignificant / probably a bad decision by all of the moderators? It sends a message sure but, it's a bunch of "whiny reddit mods" versus C-level executives in a "help us make API more affordable versus help us not lose a ton of money offering generous free API hosting/usage" negotiation. Ho…
Now, you can't entirely extrapolate from there to an indefinite blackout, but statements like this from the CEO seem like one of the best ways to make it more likely—especially given the average orneriness level of the stereotypical Redditor.