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Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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The marketing page is not readable on mobile either.

On Firefox Android, I could read the landing page and browse afyer creating an account. I was not able to create an account. (I had to go desktop)

FF iOS here, front page loads but you get a zoomed in desktop view. Zooming out causes reloads.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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I think it can be solved by personalizing the top page(s), so you mostly see the kind of stuff you upvote. If there are a few people up-voting crap you wont see it, but they will see all of it.

I'm building https://linklonk.com which works this way - you get content ranked based on what you upvoted. This is to make the incentives for voting aligned and help prevent abuse. I think the problem with karma/reputation systems is that the source of karma are fungible - anyone's upvote has the same effect on the reputation. And this makes it gameable. A personalized system can solve this by replacing global reputa…

>Now it matters who upvoted - a random bot or a user whose past contributions have been useful to you. //

In that system how do you create a ranked list of content for a user to browse? Isn't it going to be very heavy on processing demand?

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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100% agree with everything said here. My original plan was to pay for ~100 users accounts and seed the site with content for a proper launch. Given what's happening today though, it felt at least pertinent to show off the current state and get some feedback. The balance between splash page on landing / landing on content is a hard one, but I think you're right. I am worried though that without conveying the initial b…

I think if the product itself is a web page, then the root www.domain.name needs to point to the product itself, not a description of the product. Imagine if I went to www.amazon.com and instead of the store, that page was a marketing template listing Amazon's business case and a few screenshots of what shopping at Amazon looks like. IMO the only good reason to have a marketing/business-case landing page is if the pr…

For a forum you could have a story/post be your about page and just sticky it initially.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Daniel Ariely had a great analogy for this: Your grandmother cooks an amazing dinner each Thanksgiving, for nothing but your love and thanks. If at the end of the meal you said, “Great dinner, Gran, here’s for your trouble,” and handed her a $20, how do you think she’d react?

Presumably this board is populated by pseudoanonymous people, not my grandma though. I don’t feel weird about paying a stranger to cook my food, I feel weird about paying someone I know because it changes a familial relationship into something it never was: a transactional one. But this does suggest that it would be different to comment on a board like this. People wouldn’t just be making comments for the joy of disc…

It's not about how you feel paying your gran; it's about how she feels being paid by you.

The key factor is that people who have a sense of belonging or ownership will donate their time and expertise. People on /r/AskHistorians go to extreme lengths to provide ultra-high-quality answers for free because that's what it takes to be part of that community. The one time I felt like I actually had something to contribute I started my comment (a reply to another comment, there's zero chance I'll ever be qualified to provide a top-level response) with "It's an amazing day, I actually have something to contribute here!" And many people start their comments that way.

A paid environment -- especially one where the compensation is likely to be trivially small -- is far less likely to engender that sort of participation and support.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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I love this. And I would like to say that I think many of the highest-voted comments have it wrong: I WANT TO PAY for using the app in exchange for good privacy/ethical practices of the app/company making it. I don't even comment here on HN much but I was moved to speak out about your post. (And its the right day to post this, given the protest of so many subreddtits due to their API pricing and terms)

That said, yes you may still get a "network effect" from not enough people registering/using the app. But hey, I applaud the attempt and hopefully it will get some users/traction.

Last question I would have is: how does it compare/contrast/integrate with other, possibly federated, social services such as Mastodon?

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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It reads to me like: > " [your subscription fee over my $1 take] gets split evenly between everything you upvote that month. " So if I subscribe and pay $2/month, there's $1/month from me for that, so if I upvote ten things they each get $0.03 from me and if I upvote a ten things a day that's three hundred in a month, they each get $0.0033 from me. I'm not clear if that covers comments or only top level submissions /…

Yeah, I see what you mean, and it's definitely not clear enough to say whether or not this is just for posters or also commenters. I think this only works if you throttle votes (and assumedly, this only applies to voted on posts, not necessarily every comment), but that was one of the worst parts of Voat (from a technical standpoint, at least). There probably needs to be normal old infinite "I like this" votes and th…

I would just tell the bottom 95% of people they aren't getting anything at all. There is no point just paying somebody their subscription back. Now if you are posting your art regularly or similar, that's extra money that can go to you.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Another moderation risk is that whoever is moderating has an incentive to delete people’s potentially successful posts and repost under their own or a friend’s alt account

I think the simplest around that is to pay the moderators. So given the $2 - $1 goes to the server - $.67 goes to the users you upvote - $.33 goes to the moderator(s) of the group you upvoted in. So there's actual incentive to want to mod to begin with, and less incentive to risk that by trying to game for post votes as well. Now ofc I already see a half dozen issues here, so we'd need to deviate strongly from reddit…

I think that split sounds ripe for abuse. If a mod earns for every upvote, the incentive to just allow memes is just to high.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Yes it seems quite clever. People who upvote zero effort memes willy nilly will spread their share thin.

There are a lot more people who upvote zero effort memes though.

But you see, intuitively we think that the number of upvotes in that model is a “dollar payout” for this post. But actually it isn’t! In a meme community, a post with 1000 upvotes would bring its author 1000 * (1/1000) = 1 dollar, but in a hardcore geek community it would be something like 1000 * 1 = 1000 dollars.

It makes me think, what if the upvote counter was the same, i.e. you have only one upvote per month, and it gets split between all upvoted posts. And maybe it would be nice if you could accumulate your upvotes over several months...

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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I think this is a great idea! I'm surprised by the vaguely shrouded negativity in the comments. It's so easy to poke holes. This is great work and whatever problems arise can be dealt with at that time.

Here are some of the lazy thinker comments:

- If there's money involved, things go askew!!

Yes, well look: Google, FB, "open"AI etc. etc. What's new? The difference is this is a new approach and could potentially work.

- You make me sign up without showing me the stuff?! The gall..

Sigh...

- It's not pixel perfect on my special unique Moto-galaxy-iphone!

Really? You realize it's in the process of being made right? Soft launch it says. Recall how shit ChatGPT UI was, and it's not significantly improved since.

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