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Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by NovaDudely »

pkulak wrote: post #360
donmcronald wrote: post #53

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It’s crazy. I used Edge when it first switched to Chromium because it was a nice, clean Chrome alternative with working sync. Today it’s obvious Microsoft can’t be trusted. This “feature” is insane and it makes me concerned about what Windows might be doing in the background.

What's crazy is that people are still surprised every. single. time. Microsoft does something like this. It's been 30 years, folks.

More like 40 years now! I have said ti for a very long time, Microsoft didn't innovate in technology, it innovated in sleazy business practices disguised as technology.

It is difficult to find some of the more awful practices nowadays but I was always amazed at just how far they would go, and a little impressed by the thinking, to undermine all opposition.

Microsoft is like an Alpaca, if they start getting friendly towards you, it means they are about to attack!

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by NovaDudely »

Cloudef wrote: post #353
ProfessorLayton wrote: post #180

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Exactly. Nintendo spent many years developing a sequel to Breath of the Wild, when they certainly could've gone for a cheap cash grab, and instead released an extremely high quality followup to a beloved game. Not only that, but they delayed release for a year to fix bugs and polish TotK [1]. They deliberately missed the holiday '22 window for this! No one else seems to care about their games as much as Nintendo in t…

Isnt ToTK just a BOTW DLC?

ToTK makes BotW look like like an early developer build. While the base of the map is the same, they expanded it WAY beyond anything reasonable for an expansion pack. They have an below ground map that is the same size as the rest of hyrule and it is basically done just as a bonus to the rest of the title.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by NovaDudely »

indymike wrote: post #399
hospitalJail wrote: post #114

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>Mojang The real danger. (almost unironically though) I can switch OS, Office is almost obsolete with google + free stuff, their browser/software is terrible and never used, Github(yikes, well, git works..), LinkedIn(and nothing of value was lost). So we really are at the whim of M$ when it comes to Github and Minecraft. Scary. But hey, I used to be obsessed with Nintendo games, and now people have Zelda clones so I…

> when it comes to Github If MS did something super sketchy with Github, I suspect there would be an almost cambrian explosion of new tools to do with Github does.

It would be wise of them not to go against those that know how to build alternatives. Never under estimate the stubbornness of a programmer wronged.

Look at Richard Stallman, disliked proprietary software so much he spent his life fighting it even building large parts of an OS! Messing with Github would be like creating 100,000 Stallmans - and I don't think anyone wants that. ;)

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by hot_gril »

genewitch wrote: post #368
hot_gril wrote: post #339

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I've tried em all. It's not that I need a more user-friendly DE like Zorin's, it's more that the Linux kernel lacks broad support. One small but kinda important example is how simply watching Netflix requires workarounds and won't run above 1080p. Zoom and Discord also have caveats. And hardware peripherals are always questionable with Linux, whereas they'll get 0 stars if they don't 100% work with Windows (even if i…

Ubuntu resources are practically (in practice) useless. They change directions too much. Fixes that worked in ubuntu 18 won't work in 22, because they changed too much. Best case the old fixes do nothing. Worst case, you have a non-functioning system unless you have a long-suffering friend that is willing to help you. Ubuntu has the windows-itis, change for change's sake. I can't even say i like Ubuntu Server, but i'…

> universities output stuff that "works on ubuntu, just copy and paste these lines!"

Well that's the value in it. There's never going to be a perfect system, just good enough. Until I conceded to that, I was using FreeBSD and enjoying the lack of systemd while I struggled to make random packages work. My servers do run Ubuntu Server now.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by deafpolygon »

LispSporks22 wrote: post #210
RajT88 wrote: post #5

That's nothing. This is on by default: "Allow Microsoft to save your browsing activity including history, usage, favorites, web content, and other browsing data to personalize Microsoft Edge and Microsoft services like ads, search, shopping and news."

I think Microsoft is trying to wear us down with stupid shit.

It is exhausting. But Linux isn't a completely viable alternative. I still want to play games and do other things.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by hot_gril »

kibwen wrote: post #351
hot_gril wrote: post #67

I installed Windows 10 (not even 11!) recently on a random laptop and was appalled by the amount of BS in the initial setup process. Forced me to make a Microsoft online account seemingly with remote access to my PC, tried to sign me up for several different free trials, then tried multiple times to push me to Edge instead of Chrome. The UI has new crap like the Bing search on the taskbar and in the center of the des…

The irony here is that the line used to be "Linux is only free if your time has no value", but with all the junk you need to remove from Windows to make it usable, we could say "Windows is only $140 if your time has no value". (MacOS is no saint either, I vivdly remember the frustration of having to run random system commands taken off the internet to try in vain to get "smart sleep" to work. If I'm going to have to…

More like $0 (I ain't registering it), but still not worth.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by 5e92cb50239222b »

Dalewyn wrote: post #331
zokier wrote: post #259

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> See that’s on-brand with the cutthroat ruthless billG company Tangential, but this made me reflect on how "good"/"nice" Ballmer, and Ballmer-era MS, was in a very relative sense. This is slightly startling considering how my mental image of either Ballmer or MS is not great. But now looking back it does feel like relentless anti-competitiveness lessened a bit during that era, and lot of good stuff happened then. Wi…

Lot of people like to troll Ballmer for his "Developers! Developers! Developers!" act, but then again you can't really get any better than being developer centric and by consequence enthusiast, power users, and professional centric. By contrast, Gates was "Embrace! Extend! Extinguish!" and Nadella is "Data! Data! Data!" I miss Ballmer.

And yet under Nadella Windows is way more developer-centric than it ever was under previous leadership.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by NovaDudely »

hot_gril wrote: post #67

I installed Windows 10 (not even 11!) recently on a random laptop and was appalled by the amount of BS in the initial setup process. Forced me to make a Microsoft online account seemingly with remote access to my PC, tried to sign me up for several different free trials, then tried multiple times to push me to Edge instead of Chrome. The UI has new crap like the Bing search on the taskbar and in the center of the des…

I use Win 10 in the work place, it is - fine - once you spend the hour or two to lock it down. Ignoring the privacy issues.

But the joy of having a fresh install of something like Linux Mint (or Kubuntu)and having nothing to lock down is so refreshing. It is like stepping back into the simplicity of Window XP but knowing it is up to date with current technology requirements.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by NovaDudely »

bborud wrote: post #147
hot_gril wrote: post #67

I installed Windows 10 (not even 11!) recently on a random laptop and was appalled by the amount of BS in the initial setup process. Forced me to make a Microsoft online account seemingly with remote access to my PC, tried to sign me up for several different free trials, then tried multiple times to push me to Edge instead of Chrome. The UI has new crap like the Bing search on the taskbar and in the center of the des…

I bought a cheap laptop to run some industrial automation software and i was shocked at how bad Windows still is. I used to dislike Windows for being slow, stupid and buggy. Instead of addressing quality they just make the OS more creepy.

All we really want is Windows 2000 with modern security updates and drivers. Instead we get this non-sense!

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by hot_gril »

NayamAmarshe wrote: post #394
hot_gril wrote: post #339

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I've tried em all. It's not that I need a more user-friendly DE like Zorin's, it's more that the Linux kernel lacks broad support. One small but kinda important example is how simply watching Netflix requires workarounds and won't run above 1080p. Zoom and Discord also have caveats. And hardware peripherals are always questionable with Linux, whereas they'll get 0 stars if they don't 100% work with Windows (even if i…

I don't use Netflix but on Brave, I haven't had any problems with Amazon Prime Video. > Zoom and Discord also have caveats. Such as? I use zoom just fine on Linux. Never noticed any caveats. I don't use Discord so not sure what's missing. > And hardware peripherals are always questionable with Linux Not a problem with most PCs. Unless you have a really special hardware, Linux will work just fine. Sometimes brand new…

Zoom has issues with hardware acceleration and screen sharing on Linux, similarly with Discord. Netflix requires specific setup to work at all, and you get 720p at best unless you use Chrome with some custom extension to get 1080p at best. And back in the day (2018, not long ago) when you needed Adobe Flash to watch the World Cup on the only legitimate US site for it, Linux was a dead end.

> Not a problem with most PCs. Unless you have a really special hardware, Linux will work just fine. Sometimes brand new hardware takes time to receive kernel updates but most hardware is absolutely fine.

Somehow my hardware has always been "special" but worked fine with Windows. And people at work are constantly messaging about Bluetooth headsets flaking with Linux on their Thinkpads, which are supposed to have first-class support.

Of course my servers have always been fine with Linux, but a laptop with a trackpad, BT, wifi, sleep, and USB-connected accessories, that gets dicey.

> any problems that you run into, you can just search for the same problem for Ubuntu and the fix will work.

But those fixes will work for Ubuntu too. I'm no fan of it, in fact I agree with someone else here that it's the Windows of Linux OSes, but "how to do X in Ubuntu" always gives updated results.

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