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Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by kibwen »

hot_gril wrote: post #67

I installed Windows 10 (not even 11!) recently on a random laptop and was appalled by the amount of BS in the initial setup process. Forced me to make a Microsoft online account seemingly with remote access to my PC, tried to sign me up for several different free trials, then tried multiple times to push me to Edge instead of Chrome. The UI has new crap like the Bing search on the taskbar and in the center of the des…

The irony here is that the line used to be "Linux is only free if your time has no value", but with all the junk you need to remove from Windows to make it usable, we could say "Windows is only $140 if your time has no value".

(MacOS is no saint either, I vivdly remember the frustration of having to run random system commands taken off the internet to try in vain to get "smart sleep" to work. If I'm going to have to futz with my system regardless, I'll just use Linux.)

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by bombcar »

hospitalJail wrote: post #255
bombcar wrote: post #232

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Oh, definitely. Anyone in the medical field who says they've never gossiped about people's health issues is either a saint or bending the truth a bit. But that's vastly different (though perhaps more invasive) than massive breaches like these: https://www.healthcaredive.com/news/cybersecurity-hacking-he...

On the bright side, at least you know if you are affected! When an employee snoops, you will never know.

But if you DID find out about the employee snooping you’d have a good chance at getting more than $5 and credit monitoring.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by Cloudef »

ProfessorLayton wrote: post #180
edgyquant wrote: post #141

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There are no “Zelda clones” of compatible quality and intrigue.

Exactly. Nintendo spent many years developing a sequel to Breath of the Wild, when they certainly could've gone for a cheap cash grab, and instead released an extremely high quality followup to a beloved game. Not only that, but they delayed release for a year to fix bugs and polish TotK [1]. They deliberately missed the holiday '22 window for this! No one else seems to care about their games as much as Nintendo in t…

Isnt ToTK just a BOTW DLC?

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by genewitch »

intelVISA wrote: post #324
genewitch wrote: post #271

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yes, with vfio. I've had a windows 10 in a VM on my "main desktop" for nearly 3 years now. Gentoo gets two screens and an "ok" GPU, windows gets the beefier GPU and its own screen. I use qemu, there may be other ways to do it. The linux machine can't "see" the other GPU or screen(s). if you want to do this, there are a couple of gotchas. One i'd recommend bearing in mind is not using identical cards. Either two vendo…

Fwiw the stuttering fix you describe is likely moving from IRQ to MSI, it's common to edit the passed-through PCI device in regedit to use MSI (message signalled interrupts) instead.

Yes, that's what it was. And i just remember the arch wiki had something about it back when i set it up, but it was[0] incomplete - it fixed most of the issues i had with my setup, but not the MSI (i think) stuff. The site that did have the correct information and possibly even a windows download link was light grey text on a black background, and otherwise a very minimal site. I had it bookmarked on firefox on an old PC, and for some reason firefox loves deleting history/bookmarks that are older than some age. I've never bothered to track it down and it bites me every couple of years when i try to find/remember information just like this.

Technology, it's so advanced.

[0] it may be more complete now. I probably wouldn't do this again myself; but at the time i had been "selling" this service (qemu/xen virtualization of PCI cards) for linux on linux for over a decade, so it was something i already knew enough about to stumble through - windows on linux.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by ivlad »

vorticalbox wrote: post #253
belter wrote: post #171

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> The security model alone is an unfixable disaster (and many have tried over the years) Surely you are talking about Windows... :-)

Linux isn't any better. Take any Debian based os download a .deb and double click it. It's executable by default, opens up in something like Eddie and just asks for a password. Nothing about Linux is really more secure than windows other than the fact it is a small target.

.deb is not executable. It’s an “ar” archive (see https://manpages.debian.org/buster/dpkg-dev/deb.5.en.html for more details) containing a few other archives - for files and metadata.

The fact that deb extension is associated with an application (I don’t know what Eddie is) does not make deb executable. It’s like Winzip opening a zip archive on double click in Windows: yes, the file is opened, but no untrusted code has been run (assuming, Winzip is installed already and is considered trusted).

Linux is more secure because it has a much smaller attach surface. Even from the kernel interaction perspective, the number of syscalls in Linux is much smaller than in Windows, they are in a way more primitive and easier to audit. But the biggest distinguisher is lack of DCE (or MS) RPC - in Windows it’s ubiquitous, available both locally and sometimes over the network with various ways to access it (named pipes over SMB, DCE over TCP/IP, even over NetBEUI, over HTTP in some cases) which makes it hard to secure (Windows firewall is very complex as a result). Finally, Windows Carrie’s enormous amount of legacy and Microsoft is not interested in fixing it (they would rather push you to “cloud”).

Combination of code complexity and large attack surface makes Windows less secure that competition (although Pottering seems to be working on fixing it).

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by silisili »

V__ wrote: post #217
BasedAnon wrote: post #93

When are people going to grow a backbone and switch to Linux? It's kind of hard to feel sorry for tech-literate Windows users

Different people will have different reasons, but if you are curious, these are mine (I'm generalizing a bit): * I don't want to use the terminal at all if possible. Not to configure my OS, not to do basic stuff which Win can do with a few clicks. I'm in awe how fast and efficient some people are with it, but if I need it at most once or twice a day, it's a nuisance. * No binaries. I don't want to compile software ev…

1 - Depending on your job and habits, you really don't have to. The only time I use it anymore is for Git stuff, and even that isn't required, I just am used to it.

2 - It's very rare I compile anything, and it's never manual. I'm OK with the AUR. I use Yay so it's all seemless anyways. If I weren't and had a no compile no matter what mindsey, I'd probably just use Debian or Ubuntu or Fedora where you really never need to compile anything. Or use Flatpaks.

3 - I don't game, but from reading, that's really made a ton of strides lately.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by greedo »

f1shy wrote: post #117
Melting_Harps wrote: post #98

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> Sending medical images to Microsoft seems like a major HIPAA violation. Without sounding to condescending: Bro... this entire Industry still relies on using fax or snailmail for records. Using slow, leaky, non-private/seure channels for sensitive information is not as much of a concern to this field than one thinks if you've been in the belly of the beast. Ask anyone who has spent anytime doing IT work at a hospita…

Waaaaait! In the US also the FAX is still a thing?! Seriously?! I have heard terrible stories from Germany and Japan, but did not know that also the US…

I work for an insurance company that for a long time didn't trust digital signatures. So we accepted docs from our agents via fax. They were there four decades ago, and they're still there (of course they're fax servers). They'll probably be there when I retire.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by russdill »

lesuorac wrote: post #71
crazygringo wrote: post #4

This is just bananas to me that a browser would perform "super resolution" at all, much less by default . Couldn't this wreak havoc on doing things like viewing medical images, inserting false detail that isn't there? As well as on text in images, e.g. inventing a cleanly readable but hallucinated license plate number on a car, or financial figure, where the original is blurry? Not only does this seem like a terribly…

> e.g. inventing a cleanly readable but hallucinated license plate number on a car, or financial figure, where the original is blurry? You can use enhanced images in trials. In general, Courts rely on expert witnesses so if you can get one that says X method is applicable and used in that field then it's a go. It then becomes the other side's job to find an expert witness to say X actually has these flaws and is untr…

Super resolution algorithms are not image enhancement.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by jacooper »

doodlesdev wrote: post #319
jacooper wrote: post #307

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I mean is it worse than chrome?

Yes.

How? Chrome send your browsing historyz search prompts, browsing activity all to google. I meat at least Microsoft has additional features for that data?

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by pkulak »

donmcronald wrote: post #53
crazygringo wrote: post #4

This is just bananas to me that a browser would perform "super resolution" at all, much less by default . Couldn't this wreak havoc on doing things like viewing medical images, inserting false detail that isn't there? As well as on text in images, e.g. inventing a cleanly readable but hallucinated license plate number on a car, or financial figure, where the original is blurry? Not only does this seem like a terribly…

It’s crazy. I used Edge when it first switched to Chromium because it was a nice, clean Chrome alternative with working sync. Today it’s obvious Microsoft can’t be trusted. This “feature” is insane and it makes me concerned about what Windows might be doing in the background.

What's crazy is that people are still surprised every. single. time. Microsoft does something like this. It's been 30 years, folks.
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