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Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by dabluecaboose »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #398
wlesieutre wrote: post #40

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Another moderation risk is that whoever is moderating has an incentive to delete people’s potentially successful posts and repost under their own or a friend’s alt account

I think the simplest around that is to pay the moderators. So given the $2 - $1 goes to the server - $.67 goes to the users you upvote - $.33 goes to the moderator(s) of the group you upvoted in. So there's actual incentive to want to mod to begin with, and less incentive to risk that by trying to game for post votes as well. Now ofc I already see a half dozen issues here, so we'd need to deviate strongly from reddit…

That sounds good on paper, but I can only imagine it would lead to even worse lowest-common-denominator chasing than exists on reddit right now. Why would the moderators choose to enforce quality standards when crappy (but highly upvoted) memes make them more money?

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by A6gYPfxNas »

man i want to like it, but had I not scrolled to the comments, i wouldn't have seen the link to view all without registering.

also, when I watched a video, no video controls appeared until the video ended and then they didn't work anyways.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by r00fus »

DirkH wrote: post #396
hansworst wrote: post #234

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I wonder though whether people will upvote differently knowing that there's real money involved.

I keep thinking there should be two upvotes. One that is just internet points and one that is a paying-upvote. That way you can interact with the site and upvote shitty memes as you normally would, but when it is time to be serious you'll using the paying-upvote instead. Reddit kinda landes on a similar formula with Reddit gold.

I remember back in the Slashdot days their moderation system didn’t give out Karma points for “+1 Funny” moderations so you could make fun of a hysterical or simply wrong comment by upvoting. Also you could stack negative mods with funny mods to really nail their karma.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by cobbman »

sesteel wrote: post #283
jjcm wrote: post #84

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100% agree with everything said here. My original plan was to pay for ~100 users accounts and seed the site with content for a proper launch. Given what's happening today though, it felt at least pertinent to show off the current state and get some feedback. The balance between splash page on landing / landing on content is a hard one, but I think you're right. I am worried though that without conveying the initial b…

Why not pin your business model as the top post for awhile until it catches on?

This right here is the way to do it.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by pcthrowaway »

janalsncm wrote: post #476
pcthrowaway wrote: post #452

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That doesn't really work when they have to pay for each account they use to upvote though. Even if they boost their own post a bit for it to get the attention of others, they're still paying $2 per upvote for that. And if their post is no good, people might even just cancel those out with downvotes.

It is essentially a perfect recipe for money laundering.

This would be the most inefficient way to launder money ever. You'd get at most 50% of the money you took in (realistically, more like 30-40% with taxes if you were transferring significant volume), and you'd have to have an active account that posted a lot of legitimate-sounding comments, and at least 10K sockpuppet accounts which you'd then need to script a way to upvote all the posts by the account you're intending to launder it through.

That's assuming the site lets 10K+ users sign up and pay with crypto, or you have the time to track down and signup for 10K prepaid burner cards. Then, after allo that, you'd have to hope that the site never detects the vote manipulation, since you'd have an account that's getting tons of upvotes from a specific set of users.

Really.. I think this is the worst idea for laundering money I've ever heard of. You'd be better off walking into a casino and putting it all on blackjack until you win a big hand, then reporting the winnings.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by rifty »

This is cool, but I actually feel right now it leans more towards being twitter-like in a reddit UI than a reddit-like. The analogy to tagging on Reddit is posting to a subreddit, but it differs on Reddit in that posting isn't inclusive but exclusive to the discretion of the moderators(owners) of the subreddit(tag). The creates distinguishably different cultures in the comment sections between subs sharing the same content. How you go about approaching how moderation and classifying works will have a major effect on how the commenting and reaction experience will feel.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by PixyMisa »

benreesman wrote: post #55
root_axis wrote: post #36

Congrats on the hard work, and the idea is fine, but the problem is that tech like this is a cheap commodity in a massively oversaturated space, and without a hook that makes the platform exceptional (innovative/clever/beautiful design, unique aggregation features, inherently interesting content, reimagined user/content/moderation dynamics etc etc), this kind of thing is dead in the water because it lacks a network e…

I think a lot of this is exactly the kind of constructive critique the OP is looking for, and I upvoted your comment for being high-value. But I’m currently working on being a little more diplomatic, and too often I regret throwing in low-signal “this is a tech demo” type summaries next to my substantial remarks. I hope this comes off as “fellow user working on this” and not a person in a glass house with rocks.

As someone who has also built websites alone and on zero budget, I thank you both.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by PixyMisa »

Endy wrote: post #350
6510 wrote: post #301

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haha right, the cultural problem is that when one has to pay $24 one should loudly cry how expensive it is tirelessly, again and again, all day, every day, until the server is shut down but when one is paid $24 one should be offended by what little money it is and as elaborately and tirelessly explain that your posts are worth so much more. You took whole minutes worth of valuable time out of your day to write them.…

When you pump it up with VC money, you get Reddit all over again.

Looking over the VC-funded tech landscape, Reddit is close to the best case outcome.
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