What exactly did they change?
They are going to charge high fees for usage of the APIs so that 3rd party clients and bots are priced out of working.
That's Reddit lol, we're talking about Fark here
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#452Earlier quoted context omitted.
Redesigns don't happen for the sake of redesign. I don't know about Typeform, but in other cases - and especially for Facebook, Reddit and Dropbox - redesign always servers to deliver the next level of monetization squeeze/user abuse. The redesign may be most tangible thing to complain about, so it gets the lion share of attention, but in my experience is, when people complain that something about the new redesign is…
Dropbox redesign just downgraded the good UX they had in favor of hipster design style.
Do you mean the website uglification around when they launched "Dropbox Paper" or whatever that thing was called, or the earlier redesign towards toy-like appearance, that happened around the time they also dropped the Public folder? Because that last bit - dropping the Public folder - was when Dropbox lost a good chunk of its value to end users.
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#453Earlier quoted context omitted.
Admin abuse is inherently funny. It's like slapstick. It was funny on SA when the users paid to sign up in the first place, and it can only be more so when they're not even paying customers. Should've made it a wordfilter though. Those are more participatory. (You won't take this advice, which is why I've run a large popular internet forum before and you haven't.)
> Admin abuse is inherently funny I think you're a very small minority in that opinion, my friend. Perhaps leadership decisions like that are why you refer to your forum in the past tense now?
There's nothing past tense about it, but sometimes you change jobs, you know.
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#454Audiences are fickle and audiences captured during a websites golden period of explosive growth steadily move away over time. I am daily fark user for 20+ years. The site certainly is past its prime but this is just the natural lifecycle of many online communities I suspect. I wouldn't characterize it as dead. I wouldn't characterize its decline from peak popularity as caused by user-hostile actions of its owners. I…
>It's perilous to actively antagonize your audience, to take away things from them that have genuine utility for them. A site dies when you drive away your key content creators and contributors. None of these things happened at Fark I believe.
While it wasn't a key point in me leaving, I switched from Fark to Reddit around the time they started cracking down on Foobies/porn because of "misogyny" and not wanting to offend advertisers.
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#455Just wondering. If you were Reddit CEO and you were being pressured to turn it into a profitable company, how would you do it?
Fire half their employees. Seriously, what do their 2000(!) employees even do? Mod tools are a joke, moderators do it for free, and the official app pales in comparison to hobbyist ones. NFT side-projects I suppose.
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#456Why is it that companies go towards bad UX when they start ramping up profits? Download size is one thing, but ignoring that, how is it that they thought the new (Reddit) website was a good idea? Sure it's mobile friendly, but it's barely useable on mobile and desktop? For example: why do I have to constantly click read more? This seems to be a common thing with all kinds of companies, Digg, Facebook, many others. It…
Later in life of these social media websites governed by a profit oriented company, the new metric becomes engagement (Ka-ching! $$). It does not matter to them, how the UX suffers ... until it starts to matter. But by then it might be too late.
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#457I don't understand any of this at all. Do most Americans really believe they're entitled to free access to Reddit? I've spent years of my life on reddit, and enjoyed most of it. For that, I'm truly grateful to spez and all the others that make it work. I 100% support them charging for the service over injecting ever more ads. It's bizarre to me that folk are getting upset and abusive because reddit wants to charge pa…
It's a glorified bulletin board. The users are the content. The party can move somewhere else.
Except the point is that it can't. I hope they stick by their decision. I'd love to see the whiners leave for Truth Social or whatever else is on offer.
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#458Reddit management seem to be living in a bubble (as corporate managers often do). Inside the Reddit bubble, disgruntled users are a vocal minority who don't matter, Reddit -- not its users -- created the content that keeps the eyeballs coming back, apps are more convenient than websites, we own the user experience, we are leaving money on the table if we don't mine and sell more personal information, we have no compe…
IMO, I certainly think it is the goal, I think they are trying to invent a projected revenue stream, increasing ad track through 1st party views, and layoffs are all about looking more valuable for IPO.
None of it seems to increase value to current users, invite new users, or actually grow the business.
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#459Am I the only person who is rooting for all social media to die? (Including this one) The only reason I come here is to find interesting articles, but mostly it's nonsense editorials by extremists, "best practice" by novices, thinly veiled advertisement clickbait by companies, generic news from generic news sites, press releases, Twitter threads... That's most of what is on the front page here. The comments section i…
> the bizarre hangups of straight white libertarian code bros Dang. I was with you all the way until the bigotry. Level up, dude; there are more important things to focus on.
Found the straight white libertarian code bro!
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#460Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem is you don't have the mindset of Joe Average. It's something most of us lose as we become nerds, enthusiasts, professionals, etc. We become disconnected with the commons. As a Joe Average, computers are an appliance and the internet is merely a service like broadcast television. Reddit is merely a channel on broadcast television like CNN or BBC, and it's natural to use Reddit to use Reddit. Do you watch s…
You must not have been part of the Digg exodus then. Because those of us on Digg that left, we knew the change was coming. Kevin Rose had talked about it. He gave some inklings of what was coming. The user base did protest. We did threaten. When they went ahead and went through with it, we left en masse for Reddit. Kevin sold the company, and gave information about what changes were coming. The community knew, and it…
I wasn't part of the death of Digg, no. I don't really partake in social media much, so I was merely a witness to it as I noticed the noise coming down the grapevine via avenues like Slashdot.
You also kind of backed up my point; Reddit is way above critical mass right now and unlike with Digg that mass doesn't seem to be moving out anywhere. If these strikes and demonstrations want to make a difference the actions taken need to be far more drastic.
Real world worker strikes have a potential to work because the workers are willing to put their employment on the line, an ultimatum. What's happening on Reddit right now isn't an ultimatum; users aren't putting their Redditing on the line. Two days to a few weeks of privatisation is something Reddit can weather just fine, even moreso if the subreddit itself is still readable as in the case of some.