Reddit.com appears to be having an outage • Hacker News Board

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by AnonCoward42 » Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 5:55 PM UTC

rchaud wrote: post #489

dionidium wrote: post #315

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And it would in turn be worth noting that the creators of reddit had a philosophical and political commitment to free speech that drove their light-touch approach to moderation. It's not like the existence of that subreddit is evidence of an endorsement on their part.

> a philosophical and political commitment to free speech Surely this is a meme by now? Any CEO that has ever said this about a website they control is just pandering to the crowd. Musk's Twitter has complied with more government takedown requests than the previous regime had.

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Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by Deestan » Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 5:56 PM UTC

abluecloud wrote: post #330

Algent wrote: post #229

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I wouldn't be surprised if so many big subreddits being dark is causing issues around denied API calls. As for the forced reopening, beside the conspiracy this is something that could happen. It's a private company, moderator on strike are a loss of business, they would be 100% in their right to remove all the "traitors" (I'm not saying this would be a smart move, simply that if they really plan to go down this self…

where the hell are they going to fine thousands of willing users to become mods of thousands of communities, overnight?

That's easy.

Less if you add "competent" to the qualifications list :)

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by rchaud » Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 6:01 PM UTC

memetomancer wrote: post #170

So... I visited Reddit before coming here and finding the HN thread... Most of the site is rebelling, but I took the time to visit, intending to give them impressions, just to see how they are holding up. And of course they aren't really holding up as we can see. But their handling is unbelievably tone deaf - I was greeted by the message that I broke Reddit. They gave me the grade of 'F'. I refreshed the page and the…

This is the kind of thing you don't have to worry about with 3rd party apps. Old Reddit was the best dumb pipe ever, I'll miss it.

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by raldi » Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 6:02 PM UTC

jallen_dot_dev wrote: post #451

r0bbbo wrote: post #6

Lots of speculation on Twitter about this—a failed attempt to re-open all closed subreddits and instate their own moderators. I can't imagine it'd be that, although I do enjoy the conspiracy, and more likely they were using the window of reduced traffic to make some larger changes and they went awry

Wild guess: visiting a private sub requires an extra call to a service/db to check if the user can view it. Normally there are only a small number of these checks because private subs were usually small communities. Now, many large subs having switched private is causing some poor mircoservice somewhere to get hammered.

It could also be that the cache-hit rate is like 1/10th normal with the would-be front page full of smaller subreddits today.

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by cjs_ac » Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 6:03 PM UTC

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #411

ryanstorm wrote: post #251

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Imagine being a non-tech savvy user or someone who understands the world more literally than figuratively. That sort of message could be pretty confusing for them.

Windows 95. "This program has performed an illegal operation and must be shut down" "WTF AM I GOING TO JAIL?"

This was my grandmother's reaction. She turned the computer off, closed the curtains, turned the lights off, and waited for the police to show up.

She also used to cheat at jigsaw puzzles by gnawing at the pieces so they would fit.

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by slg » Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 6:03 PM UTC

Dylan16807 wrote: post #503

slg wrote: post #491

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Use of the images can be abusive even if the creation of them wasn't. Revenge porn is an obvious example. Even legally and consensually created images can be used to abuse someone.

Under a broad definition of just "abuse", yes. But "sexual abuse" is a specific thing, and socially attacking someone with revenge porn is not at all "sexual abuse". It's a different category, just like punching someone in the face is a different category.

From the Wikipedia article on the subject[1]:

>The practice has also been described as a form of psychological abuse and domestic violence, as well as a form of sexual abuse.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenge_porn

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by trostaft » Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 6:04 PM UTC

garciasn wrote: post #216

elegylegacy wrote: post #119

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That's literally why I'm here right now. I usually browse Reddit with my morning coffee, this has been a pleasant alternative

I deleted Apollo and the official Reddit app (which I used to post posts) and I'm done. I had been a user for ~12 years and had 150K+ comment karma. They fucked up and now I'll spend more time on here and /., is my guess. Unless there are other strong dork communities I should be looking into. Edit: Ask HN thread showed up on my last question: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36293789

Did the same, but I took a step further and deleted my account. I had been using the site for over a decade, I knew that if I didn't cut off the path behind me I'd be tempted to linger.

I'll miss my local and hobby subreddits. I hope I find something to replace them.

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by nullityrofl » Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 6:04 PM UTC

SkyMarshal wrote: post #319

nullityrofl wrote: post #311

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Yeah, I'm also US West Coast and I only ever use old.reddit or BaconReader. The Reddit Status Twitter and number of people responding to you confirm this isn't an isolated incident, though.

Your reddit status link is showing outages about twice monthly fwiw. But yeah clearly others have a different experience with this. I wonder why.

Sure, twice monthly is a lot more than "not for 10+ years"!.

Anecdotally I think it's more and that the threshold for "errors above normal" is probably set pretty high. It feels like their infrastructure isn't very reliable and depending on which backend Cloudflare is routing you to, YMMV.

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by rmahadev » Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 6:07 PM UTC

sethhochberg wrote: post #413

iak8god wrote: post #345

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I'm boycotting reddit this week, and I will never use their app, but I just don't know where else to go for communities related to niche non-tech interests, and state & local stuff. I guess Facebook groups, but FB is practically unusable these days.

Just a few weeks ago I went through the exercise of closing my FB account because I was getting all of my local NYC discussion from subreddits, instead. Poor timing I guess. If reddit bungles this whole thing, the loss of /r/asknyc will be truly tragic. Such a great way to crowdsource local recommendations without the extra veneer of tourist feedback on top.

u/IsItABedroom's comments will be such a huge loss!

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by award_ » Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 6:07 PM UTC

jallen_dot_dev wrote: post #451

r0bbbo wrote: post #6

Lots of speculation on Twitter about this—a failed attempt to re-open all closed subreddits and instate their own moderators. I can't imagine it'd be that, although I do enjoy the conspiracy, and more likely they were using the window of reduced traffic to make some larger changes and they went awry

Wild guess: visiting a private sub requires an extra call to a service/db to check if the user can view it. Normally there are only a small number of these checks because private subs were usually small communities. Now, many large subs having switched private is causing some poor mircoservice somewhere to get hammered.

Yep, this is definitely just speculation, but I think this is it. Code/queries that worked fine at small load for private subs just doesn't work at scale when tons of subs are private.