Reddit.com appears to be having an outage
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#482I hope we stop talking about Reddit because the only people who seem to ever give a shit about that website and talk about in other places have these other attributes that make it dreadful to read their whinging.
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#483Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is partly why I now prefer the term "free exchange of ideas" over "freedom of speech". I believe it more closely captures the essence of what makes free speech worth protecting, while also conveniently excluding stuff like this (among other things, like spam or antisocial behavior).
Freedom of speech is a legal concept that clearly doesn't cover CSAM. Free speech is a principle but it also doesn't cover CSAM. Fire in a crowded theater doesn't actually work as a legal defense but obscenity does
It may actually be a defense.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shouting_fire_in_a_crowded_the...
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I mean, define "endorsement". Permitting something to exist when you have the power to do otherwise is a mild form of endorsement. A commitment to free speech is, to an extent, an endorsement of all the speech that results.
Enabling and endorsement are two different things, no need to conflate the two. If I'm a dentist and tell my patient that they could use any toothpaste they want but that I don't recommend the specific brand that they use, how is that an endorsement in any way? I'm allowing them the choice without endorsing in this case.
You can be a proponent of free speech and not allow people to stand on your porch yelling heinous things, but that's not what Reddit was doing. They knowingly profited from that speech.
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As others have said, it's Slashdot - which got it's name from trying to spell out the web address over the phone. Silly and confusing... h..t..t..p..colon..slash..slash..slashdot..dot..org When you see "Hacker News Hug" on here (recently due to Cloudflare's issues) or Reddit's "Hug of Death", the original was "Slashdotted", when tech people hosted personal sites on their _own_ home DSL (even Dial-up via Dynamic DNS!)…
> These asynchronous connections had terrible upload speed by design. As opposed to today, where connects have terrible uploads speed because ISPs don't want you to host servers. I've heard of people getting gigabit down, but only 16 mbps up.
Which essentially means you have X bandwidth to distribute between upstream and downstream. And it's far more profitable to sell X 40/10 Mbit connections vs selling a bunch of 25/25 Mbit ones, where most people there won't be using upload all that much.
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#486HN is also really slow, this could be a wider-spread backend issue like when that one CDN took down half of the internet with it.
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They're the same thing and used interchangeably. The sexual abuse is from the sharing lascivious pictures of someone taken without their consent, with the additional context that children are not understood to be capable of consent for sharing lascivious pictures. It is not physical abuse.
That... is an abuse of the word abuse. Also wouldn't that logic apply to pictures that were originally taken openly and innocently?
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#488So... I visited Reddit before coming here and finding the HN thread... Most of the site is rebelling, but I took the time to visit, intending to give them impressions, just to see how they are holding up. And of course they aren't really holding up as we can see. But their handling is unbelievably tone deaf - I was greeted by the message that I broke Reddit. They gave me the grade of 'F'. I refreshed the page and the…
Those error pages are actually infuriating. Maybe I'm just getting older but seeing "You broke reddit" and all the other shit annoys the hell out of me. It's their website, the error should be "we fucked sometning up, sorry" and be done with it.
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I mean it's also worth noting that spez was CEO of Reddit and subreddits like that were allowed to exist for many, many more years.
And it would in turn be worth noting that the creators of reddit had a philosophical and political commitment to free speech that drove their light-touch approach to moderation. It's not like the existence of that subreddit is evidence of an endorsement on their part.
Surely this is a meme by now? Any CEO that has ever said this about a website they control is just pandering to the crowd. Musk's Twitter has complied with more government takedown requests than the previous regime had.
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#490Earlier quoted context omitted.
That... is an abuse of the word abuse. Also wouldn't that logic apply to pictures that were originally taken openly and innocently?
This is a hill to avoid dying on.