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Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by chromakode »

veave wrote: post #310
aw1621107 wrote: post #172

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It's worth noting that a very old user (/u/andrewsmith1986 IIRC) responded that at that time it was possible to add arbitrary users as mods without needing interaction/feedback/etc. from the user in question. If that was the case, then any user being a mod on any particular sub at that time doesn't really mean much. Obviously I can't reference the comment in question right now, but I'll try to remember to circle back…

It's easy to prove, this is the code change that added the moderator invitation system: https://github.com/reddit-archive/reddit/commit/db7b531a7180...

I added that invitation flow in response to widespread abuse of the 1-way add moderator button. As an aside, the invitation message felt too bland and clinical during dev, so I added "gadzooks!" to the beginning, which became a meme for a while.

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by Eisenstein »

rimunroe wrote: post #397
comprev wrote: post #304

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As others have said, it's Slashdot - which got it's name from trying to spell out the web address over the phone. Silly and confusing... h..t..t..p..colon..slash..slash..slashdot..dot..org When you see "Hacker News Hug" on here (recently due to Cloudflare's issues) or Reddit's "Hug of Death", the original was "Slashdotted", when tech people hosted personal sites on their _own_ home DSL (even Dial-up via Dynamic DNS!)…

My brother writes xkcd. In 2006 I was living at home while attending community college. At the time, his site was still hosted on the old HP desktop that used to sit in our family room and now sat in his old bedroom. One day I was playing in an unofficial Counter-Strike tournament when one of his comics (possibly "Pi Equals"[1]) got posted to either Slashdot or Boing Boing. My ping immediately went from probably ~25…

> My brother writes xkcd.

Username checks out.

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by Dylan16807 »

slg wrote: post #491
Dylan16807 wrote: post #446

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That... is an abuse of the word abuse. Also wouldn't that logic apply to pictures that were originally taken openly and innocently?

Use of the images can be abusive even if the creation of them wasn't. Revenge porn is an obvious example. Even legally and consensually created images can be used to abuse someone.

Under a broad definition of just "abuse", yes.

But "sexual abuse" is a specific thing, and socially attacking someone with revenge porn is not at all "sexual abuse".

It's a different category, just like punching someone in the face is a different category.

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by fumar »

fer wrote: post #192
fumar wrote: post #134

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You saw 10% comment drops in subreddits still available or are you saying 10% of comments overall on all of reddit including the privacy subreddits?

On all still available. I don't expect (recently) privated subs to have a ton of activity anyway.

10% drops in overall comments so average pre and post or 10% in comment rates? I only ask out pure curiosity. I don't expect Reddit will ever publish engagement impacts during this period.

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by jallen_dot_dev »

lillesvin wrote: post #493
jallen_dot_dev wrote: post #451

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Wild guess: visiting a private sub requires an extra call to a service/db to check if the user can view it. Normally there are only a small number of these checks because private subs were usually small communities. Now, many large subs having switched private is causing some poor mircoservice somewhere to get hammered.

I would imagine that a normal visit generates more backend traffic, given that it needs to fetch posts, thumbnails, etc. whereas a visit to a private sub wouldn't need to check more than authorization. I could easily be wrong though, I haven't done web development for years.

Sure, but that type of traffic is expected and they can handle it with things like caching and autoscaling. I'm suggesting that a part of the system that usually doesn't get a lot of requests wasn't designed to handle a huge influx of requests.

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by Red_Leaves_Flyy »

dionidium wrote: post #315
roncesvalles wrote: post #284

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I mean it's also worth noting that spez was CEO of Reddit and subreddits like that were allowed to exist for many, many more years.

And it would in turn be worth noting that the creators of reddit had a philosophical and political commitment to free speech that drove their light-touch approach to moderation. It's not like the existence of that subreddit is evidence of an endorsement on their part.

>It's not like the existence of that subreddit is evidence of an endorsement on their part.

It is though. 230 be damned. These were not small or hidden communities. They were frequently on the front page. Generally, and especially in this case silence is violence. The optics of that sub and the frequenters thereof are terrible. Do you want to try and justify their inaction further or concede this point? It should have never been allowed in the first place. Spez/Reddit at al should continue to be shamed for their long-standing tacit approval of these communities. Earning respectability requires public contrition for bad decisions that affect the public and non participants. As is typical, the communities were only shuttered when the victims cries grew loud enough to affect their brand image. Cf fph, wpd, fappening, t_d, Boston bomber fiasco, all the racist subs, and countless other controversies that spez/Reddit fumbled. Reddit deserves to close. The management team is evidently not competent or mature enough for the task and has repeatedly proven that their inability to learn from their mistakes and failure to become the proactive stewards needed will result in preventable harm to people who do not even use the platform.

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by Ajedi32 »

ilyt wrote: post #460
Ajedi32 wrote: post #391

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This is partly why I now prefer the term "free exchange of ideas" over "freedom of speech". I believe it more closely captures the essence of what makes free speech worth protecting, while also conveniently excluding stuff like this (among other things, like spam or antisocial behavior).

Well, it's freedom of speech, not freedom of pics

Freedom of the press does often get lumped in with speech in these sort of discussions, for good reason. That's another reason I prefer "ideas"; it's agnostic to the medium through which the ideas are conveyed (though again, in this specific case the images in question weren't intended to convey an "idea").

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by Dylan16807 »

ilyt wrote: post #470
flutas wrote: post #404

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Reddit 100% has stated that it was because of the sub blackout. > According to Reddit, the blackout is responsible for the problems. “A significant number of subreddits shifting to private caused some expected stability issues, and we’ve been working on resolving the anticipated issue,” spokesperson Tim Rathschmidt tells The Verge. https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/12/23758002/reddit-crashing-...

Them "anticipating" "expected" issues with... people visiting reddit less sounds a bit weird...

Making a ton of subs private does a lot more than change view counts.

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by blurri »

tsunamifury wrote: post #84

Reddit being gone for a while actually makes me feel like the world is a better place. Somehow knowing even for a brief moment no one is there and I’m not missing out on anything makes me feel… more alive and excited to interact with the world. sounds bizarre I know… but I wish more social media shut down now.

I think these takes are just silly. Humans being gone would make the world a better place. Getting rid of social media, the internet etc doesn't make all the bad humans suddenly go away.

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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Post by callalex »

rchaud wrote: post #489
dionidium wrote: post #315

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And it would in turn be worth noting that the creators of reddit had a philosophical and political commitment to free speech that drove their light-touch approach to moderation. It's not like the existence of that subreddit is evidence of an endorsement on their part.

> a philosophical and political commitment to free speech Surely this is a meme by now? Any CEO that has ever said this about a website they control is just pandering to the crowd. Musk's Twitter has complied with more government takedown requests than the previous regime had.

It is now, but it was very different at the time. The old guard of the internet supporting absolute freedom of speech didn’t used to be associated with Nazis. Some good examples that still exists today are the Electronic Frontier Foundation and to some extent the American Civil Liberties Union.
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