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Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

#101

Microsoft Edge has become a place where Microsoft can try out things at a much faster pace than Windows update. But that means it's getting all of these features by default, leaking yorur data to Microsoft and with deceptive questions to make you use Bing as the default search engine. Every time I get the prompt I need to do a double take because they use their 'blue button' thing as a way to guide you to a certain c…

the purpose is to make a record of what you are doing on the Internet.. detailed records. Its a feature for management, tax officials and to some extent ordinary law enforcement. Secondly, the records in aggregate show trends and activity, to sell ads, and might have other commercial value, or value to MSFT+partners with new product areas.

This kind of record keeping was mocked for thirty years in the West when it was done in other places, now its here on the "standard" PC. PC sales have slowed in the last dozen years. This is the kind of invasive, unbridled abuse you get now on a "personal computer"

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

#102
The feature makes sense but more in an Apple context and without uploading stuff

1. You have a good enough onboard AI chip you can use to run this locally

2. You only do it for low resolution photos

3. You have a screen with a lot of pixels

This can be nice when Apple releases their latest ultra super retina screen and most web pages suck

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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If you are not paying for your browser with your wallet, somebody else is paying for you. It has all sorts of implications.

This is why I don't use Firefox/Chrome/Edge or Linux. I don't want to be the product.

Geez can hacker news users no longer detect sarcasm? This comment is clearly pointing out the absurdity (or more specifically, incompleteness) of the grandparent argument, not bashing on Linux.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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It’s crazy. I used Edge when it first switched to Chromium because it was a nice, clean Chrome alternative with working sync. Today it’s obvious Microsoft can’t be trusted. This “feature” is insane and it makes me concerned about what Windows might be doing in the background.

Reminder that MS owns GitHub, LinkedIn, and Mojang.

LinkedIn could never be trusted anyway :)

But I think all these different divisions just act radically different within microsoft. What is absolutely certain is that the Windows team cannot be trusted, as they have shown repeatedly.

GitHub has not broken my trust in them yet. I'm sure one day it'll happen; statistically it's more likely than not. But what's the point in pre-empting it, exactly?

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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This is just bananas to me that a browser would perform "super resolution" at all, much less by default . Couldn't this wreak havoc on doing things like viewing medical images, inserting false detail that isn't there? As well as on text in images, e.g. inventing a cleanly readable but hallucinated license plate number on a car, or financial figure, where the original is blurry? Not only does this seem like a terribly…

Sending medical images to Microsoft seems like a major HIPAA violation.

It's sending URL's, and it's not clear if it is also sending cookies or other auth info. I would think / hope that any images covered by HIPAA would not be leakable by URL alone.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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It’s crazy. I used Edge when it first switched to Chromium because it was a nice, clean Chrome alternative with working sync. Today it’s obvious Microsoft can’t be trusted. This “feature” is insane and it makes me concerned about what Windows might be doing in the background.

> Today it’s obvious Microsoft can’t be trusted. Today? Where were you when it's 'free' OS' was 'phoning home' or during it's behemoth days in the 90s-2000s when it forced the most pro-business Government (US) to essentially break it up when it was using it's monoploitic practices too far for even them? I have to use Teams and just logically assume all of what was said or talked about exists on some server somewhere…

I've been railing about all the spying Microsoft Teams is doing across corporate networks for the last year or so, to nothing but shrugs, 'I'm sure Microsoft isn't using our business data' or similar responses. People never learn.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

#108

I installed Windows 10 (not even 11!) recently on a random laptop and was appalled by the amount of BS in the initial setup process. Forced me to make a Microsoft online account seemingly with remote access to my PC, tried to sign me up for several different free trials, then tried multiple times to push me to Edge instead of Chrome. The UI has new crap like the Bing search on the taskbar and in the center of the des…

> Forced me to make a Microsoft online account They actually don’t quite force this. They just make it very difficult to find the option to use a local account instead. (Unless they’ve changed things for the worse since last time I installed windows. Very possible!)

On W10 you only get the option to create a local account if your network is disconnected, and only after multiple screens of insistence. A normal person being asked to connect to wifi during setup will do so and never have the option to not create a MS account. So it may not be impossible to create an offline account, but for all intents and purposes they do force your hand.

On W11 you have to resort to more esoteric tricks, you can't actually complete setup normally without network and a ms account.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Sending medical images to Microsoft seems like a major HIPAA violation.

> Sending medical images to Microsoft seems like a major HIPAA violation. Without sounding to condescending: Bro... this entire Industry still relies on using fax or snailmail for records. Using slow, leaky, non-private/seure channels for sensitive information is not as much of a concern to this field than one thinks if you've been in the belly of the beast. Ask anyone who has spent anytime doing IT work at a hospita…

What specifically did you do to get an MRI quickly? Your personal doctor didn't want to give you one? Or the hospital/MRI place didn't want to give you one?

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Yup, pretty common theme on this and other online communities. If Apple does something – this is obviously the correct thing to do, and everyone should copy them. If Microsoft does the same thing – meh, no one cares. If Google or Meta does the same thing – pitchforks, outrage, a thousand daily top-voted blog posts detailing how terrible these companies are. Goes to show how much of the current outrage culture is driv…

This does not align with my experience with HN. The pitchforks were properly out and aggressively poking at Apple when Apple declared that images uploaded to the cloud would be actively scanned and reviewed for illegal content. It got to the point where Apple reversed its decision.

Exactly this. And with very little outrage that Google and others already do that same scanning, in the cloud, with no transparency.
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