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Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by lesuorac »

crazygringo wrote: post #4

This is just bananas to me that a browser would perform "super resolution" at all, much less by default . Couldn't this wreak havoc on doing things like viewing medical images, inserting false detail that isn't there? As well as on text in images, e.g. inventing a cleanly readable but hallucinated license plate number on a car, or financial figure, where the original is blurry? Not only does this seem like a terribly…

> e.g. inventing a cleanly readable but hallucinated license plate number on a car, or financial figure, where the original is blurry?

You can use enhanced images in trials.

In general, Courts rely on expert witnesses so if you can get one that says X method is applicable and used in that field then it's a go. It then becomes the other side's job to find an expert witness to say X actually has these flaws and is untrustable. i.e. the Court is not bothered by confidence intervals; if your profession makes decisions by flipping coins its admissible in court. The Court only cares if somebody is willing to certify it as true.

http://www.curtisreevestrial.com/files/1187.pdf

https://www.jonathanhak.com/2018/02/17/image-clarification-n...

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by unethical_ban »

donmcronald wrote: post #53
crazygringo wrote: post #4

This is just bananas to me that a browser would perform "super resolution" at all, much less by default . Couldn't this wreak havoc on doing things like viewing medical images, inserting false detail that isn't there? As well as on text in images, e.g. inventing a cleanly readable but hallucinated license plate number on a car, or financial figure, where the original is blurry? Not only does this seem like a terribly…

It’s crazy. I used Edge when it first switched to Chromium because it was a nice, clean Chrome alternative with working sync. Today it’s obvious Microsoft can’t be trusted. This “feature” is insane and it makes me concerned about what Windows might be doing in the background.

Vivaldi is my browser of choice due to sync, and because Firefox as much as I love it does not perform well when scrolling on mobile.

Of course, Firefox has sync as well.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by Melting_Harps »

donmcronald wrote: post #53
crazygringo wrote: post #4

This is just bananas to me that a browser would perform "super resolution" at all, much less by default . Couldn't this wreak havoc on doing things like viewing medical images, inserting false detail that isn't there? As well as on text in images, e.g. inventing a cleanly readable but hallucinated license plate number on a car, or financial figure, where the original is blurry? Not only does this seem like a terribly…

It’s crazy. I used Edge when it first switched to Chromium because it was a nice, clean Chrome alternative with working sync. Today it’s obvious Microsoft can’t be trusted. This “feature” is insane and it makes me concerned about what Windows might be doing in the background.

> Today it’s obvious Microsoft can’t be trusted.

Today?

Where were you when it's 'free' OS' was 'phoning home' or during it's behemoth days in the 90s-2000s when it forced the most pro-business Government (US) to essentially break it up when it was using it's monoploitic practices too far for even them?

I have to use Teams and just logically assume all of what was said or talked about exists on some server somewhere for the employer, LEO or intelengence agencies to retrieve; if Snowden has taught us anything is that M$ is the darling child of the Intelligence agencies in the US for a reason.

Using M$ outside of a (forced) work environment is literately like asking to be tracked, monitored of your own accord. Nothing they do should be presumed to be secure until proven a length to be otherwise. It's very likely why it's so bloated and runs terribly, they are optimizing no for UX but for it's real business model: spying.

Sadly, and with only a slight tinge of despondence: I've given up on preaching about FOSS to the masses, but with stuff like this it's like asking why people sign up for death cults, it alwasy ends in: Humans just being Humans.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by unethical_ban »

LordShredda wrote: post #33
jqpabc123 wrote: post #14

Brave --- the easy way to fix this and lots of other privacy related issues affecting the most popular web browsers. As this article shows, you can fiddle with Edge and other browsers to try and make them more privacy respecting --- but why bother trying to hit a constantly moving target? Clearly, your privacy is not in their best interests and they will only continue to circumvent it.

Brave is chromium based, which immediately means it's not going to help with anything

Issues about telemetry and privacy are separate from issues with web client hegemony.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by internet2000 »

7373737373 wrote: post #7

So how can we remove this and other Microsoft spyware from our systems?

I deleted the Edge folders from C:\Program Files (x86)\ and moved on a while ago. Didn’t seem to break anything I care about. No longer worth chasing down the settings to disable the harmful behavior.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by michaelmrose »

dist-epoch wrote: post #66
freediver wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are not paying for your browser with your wallet, somebody else is paying for you. It has all sorts of implications.

This is why I don't use Firefox/Chrome/Edge or Linux. I don't want to be the product.

Firefox has had minor missteps in the past but Linux and Firefox are not unsecure options despite being free and Microsoft isn't a safe option despite charging money.

Your algorithm is fairly broken.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by vntx »

7373737373 wrote: post #7

So how can we remove this and other Microsoft spyware from our systems?

I was getting sick of Window’s bloat and telemetry so I replaced Windows on every single one of my computers with PopOS! and have never looked back. The transition was rough ( I basically gave up gaming to learn programming) but I have no regrets, and this post just validates that decision. Micro$ cannot and should not ever be trusted.

I do miss Paint.NET though.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by AHOHA »

paxys wrote: post #28
1024core wrote: post #24

Just imagine if Google was doing something like this; I bet the HN servers would melt down from the outrage! MS often gets a pass in these areas because people think of it as the "underdog", when in reality, MSFT is the biggest software company out there.

Yup, pretty common theme on this and other online communities. If Apple does something – this is obviously the correct thing to do, and everyone should copy them. If Microsoft does the same thing – meh, no one cares. If Google or Meta does the same thing – pitchforks, outrage, a thousand daily top-voted blog posts detailing how terrible these companies are. Goes to show how much of the current outrage culture is driv…

It’s probably because both MS and Apple actually sell products, hardware and software that used daily and the alternatives aren’t competing much, and then having these “occasional” privacy violations issues, FB/Google on the other hand, having their whole business model about selling your data. But I disagree that they (MS/Apple) get a pass, those are the reasons why some choose to use open source alternatives like linux etc.
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