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Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

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You're basically saying black people are over-represented in money-garnering trends, a bold statement to back up just by anecdata.

Do we need a citation that oil is a valuable commodity? Or that the internet has been useful for commerce? I think it's self-evident that hip hop is at least a trillion dollar phenomenon and that it started with black folks in the United States.

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Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

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You're missing why this would be important. It's cool for investors because the black user base draws in a bunch of other people along with them. It's also not about people saying "omg black people, I must be there!" Culturally, historically, in the USA, black culture has set a bunch of trends. See NBA, NFL, hip-hop/music, comedians, dance, etc. Same as when a "cool" person goes anywhere, you don't monetize them, you…

You're basically saying black people are over-represented in money-garnering trends, a bold statement to back up just by anecdata.

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Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

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They need to create a username and password to ask that question? If they already have a Reddit account that wins

Sure, I mostly understand. I meant amazed more like the context of the OP of Reddit draining people away from other forums. Amazed that all it takes is saving them 15 seconds of creating a new account, often on a forum that has better features than Reddit, for them to prefer Reddit. It doesn't take much for people to opt in to a centralized internet.

It's not just creating an account.

The forum software itself may be unfamiliar. Does it have better features than Reddit? Some do; others don't. Does the forum have really bizarre rules or conventions? Subreddits can too, but it seems to be less common. Will my first ten posts get held for moderation? They probably won't on my 17 year old Reddit account.

It would be nice to see a federated identity/reputation system take off though. I'm thinking of OpenID plus [some other technology that probably exists, but isn't popular] where any of many service providers or my own website can confirm my identity, then offer vouches from other forums along the lines of "Zak has been a member of [community] for 2 years, posted 473 times, and has not been banned as of [date]".

Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

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> I am absolutely blown away by the number of subs that have gone private My understanding is that moderators are the most upset category by API changes, because they are losing some unique mod features from 3rd party apps.

I use Apollo to read Reddit, but mod using desktop web. Definitely the Apollo and handling of the API changes is annoying. But this was much more a straw that broke the camel’s back thing from a mod perspective. I’ve mentioned this before but I am on the mod team for r/portland and the Reddit admin has been terrible at providing tools and support for serious content mod problems and straight up platform abuse. There…

For the person that threatened a mass shooting, the correct move would be to contact the FBI.The FBI would have then reached out to Reddit.

I use third party apps exclusively, and will not be participating in Reddit after Apollo shuts down.

Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

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man I did this with facebook and it obliterated my social connections. it doesn’t make sense from a micro perspective, game theory sucks man i installed instagram in december and it’s so much easier to make friends. I feel in touch with what’s going on in the community

>I did this with facebook and it obliterated my social connections. Huh... I did this with Facebook and it basically changed nothing. I was forced to text my friends life updates, that was it. Out of every social media site I've quit, Facebook seemed to have the lowest impact on my life(as long as I or my wife checked it every 1-3 weeks for Events). It seems Facebook has an ability to make you feel popular without ac…

whoa, you’ve really opened my eyes! i’ve now realized my lived personal experience is invalid

gonna take your advice and cut off the people i’ve met because hospitalJail is skeptical!

Appreciate you providing insight into my life

Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

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It sounds like you are saying there is no reason other than pressure, presumably from a board. Perhaps the board has a reason.

I think people are usually over-inclined to assume that these companies know what they're doing; that there is, somewhere, some well-thought-out master plan. Often, there isn't. Even with Twitter, which has just been a cavalcade of obviously nonsense moves for months and months, there are still believers in The Plan. I'm actually a little curious why this is; despite presumably having had interactions with poorly-run…

Because a reasonable person will have a plan. Maybe not the best plan, maybe not a master plan, but a plan. To your specific point:

'person knows what they are doing' does not equal have a 'well-thought-out master plan'

Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

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There's something that I don't get about forcing mobile browser users into mobile apps - how does it make sense for the company? They're forcing themselves into a walled garden, where the gardener takes a hefty "app store tax" on your revenues and has countless levers to force you to style the app how it suits their interests, not yours. For some apps, this might still be the best way to gain traction. But if have al…

The web puts the user in control; apps (on all significant platforms currently existing) put the company in control. Yes, Google and (especially) Apple may force Reddit to comply with this or that, but Google and (especially) Apple also prevent the user from doing all sorts of things they can do with an open platform like the web. Users can't block ads in an app. Users can't block telemetry. Users can't prevent track…

Let's not forget that the in-app browser page can be injected with whatever javascript the owner of the app wants. FB/Instagram use this for tracking. There is a more comprehensive list of what apps do this somewhere; I do not remember where it is. But for FB/Meta, you can find the info here: https://krausefx.com/blog/ios-privacy-instagram-and-facebook...

Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

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There's something that I don't get about forcing mobile browser users into mobile apps - how does it make sense for the company? They're forcing themselves into a walled garden, where the gardener takes a hefty "app store tax" on your revenues and has countless levers to force you to style the app how it suits their interests, not yours. For some apps, this might still be the best way to gain traction. But if have al…

The web puts the user in control; apps (on all significant platforms currently existing) put the company in control. Yes, Google and (especially) Apple may force Reddit to comply with this or that, but Google and (especially) Apple also prevent the user from doing all sorts of things they can do with an open platform like the web. Users can't block ads in an app. Users can't block telemetry. Users can't prevent track…

> Users can't block ads in an app. Users can't block telemetry. Users can't prevent tracking, at least without help from the platform vendor.

Adguard does a pretty good job of blocking these things inside of apps.

Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

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post #410

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This, this and exactly this. Their finance team probably made a projection that if they can get X% of current mobile web users onto the app, they’ll be able to extract Y% more total revenue. They have no idea that they should split users into contributors and lurkers and even if they had, they have absolutely no idea how to model their value, so they don’t, the board sees the numbers and tells them ‘ASAP’ and that’s…

It’s less about extracting that revenue and more about extracting that sweet IPO capital with a story about being replacement-TikTok.

The IPO capital you can raise is a function of your revenue prospectus.

If you have NNN million users, and you have full location tracking, purchase history, device ID, contacts, search history, list of other apps installed, usage data, Wifi SSIDs, Bluetooth beacons, etc. etc. etc. that's going to look like a huge payday compared to those same users running a mobile adblocker.

And if you're not currently collecting location tracking data, and you've got half a decade of meteoric growth, well, turn it on. Forecast that graph up and to the right, and just flip the switch to the "get money" position.

Due to the winner's curse, you only have to convince a few investors. Even if a significant fraction don't trust your prospectus and imagine that some users might be turned off by a post-IPO monetization scheme, you merely have to convince a small group that your numbers are accurate and you're TikTok 2.0.

Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

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The decision maker likely wants the app installed because it increases the friction to users to “replace” the app with a competing one. Amazon used to offer $5 credits to install their app years ago, and I initially struggled to understand the reasoning; however these days its so convenient to buy via the amazon app compared to signing up for an account on different websites (i am more likely to use Amazon which is a…

For Amazon, I prefer the web-app since it's able to open tabs for products I'm comparing. With the app, you're forced into a forward/back/forward navigation pattern that I think is sub-optimal when comparing products. Is there something I'm missing here? It seems that the app is the less usable experience to me.

Yeah this is a common theme. The web presence often gets more attention ironically, because it is the facade and starting point for the given endeavor. Then comes greed and they try to discourage web usage ... we've all seen it play out over and over.
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