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Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by ricardo81 »

dacryn wrote: post #71
boc wrote: post #12

I have a 14yo reddit account, and was a Digg user for years prior to that. While there were scandals like the HDDVD code stuff, ultimately the user-hostile Digg v4 redesign killed it for me- the day they forced it on everyone I never went back. Tonight watching all the subreddits go private is the first time I’ve ever felt like Reddit is the next to die. If anyone from reddit corporate is reading this, understand tha…

at this point, there is only 1 way to save reddit, and it's so drastic that they wont do it because the ones who need to do it are too blind or too far away * fire spez * promise a clear committed roadmap of mod tools * promise to review 3rd party API pricing, and delay the current rollout It's literally the only way that will be accepted by the 1% that keep the site running (read the Ennui engine principle)

Is there any good reads wrt the blowback on cost of the API? I've only read that it costs $0.25 per 1000 calls which seems relatively cheap, but I haven't looked into how it affects use cases.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by [deleted] »

boc wrote: post #12

I have a 14yo reddit account, and was a Digg user for years prior to that. While there were scandals like the HDDVD code stuff, ultimately the user-hostile Digg v4 redesign killed it for me- the day they forced it on everyone I never went back. Tonight watching all the subreddits go private is the first time I’ve ever felt like Reddit is the next to die. If anyone from reddit corporate is reading this, understand tha…

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Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by bearmode »

Ekaros wrote: post #119
dacryn wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

at this point, there is only 1 way to save reddit, and it's so drastic that they wont do it because the ones who need to do it are too blind or too far away * fire spez * promise a clear committed roadmap of mod tools * promise to review 3rd party API pricing, and delay the current rollout It's literally the only way that will be accepted by the 1% that keep the site running (read the Ennui engine principle)

Maybe instead of this banning 3rd part Apps. They could charge all users 9.99 or 19.99 a month. Thus generate revenue for the IPO.

20 dollars a month for Reddit, oh man that's a good one

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by kristopolous »

dacryn wrote: post #71
boc wrote: post #12

I have a 14yo reddit account, and was a Digg user for years prior to that. While there were scandals like the HDDVD code stuff, ultimately the user-hostile Digg v4 redesign killed it for me- the day they forced it on everyone I never went back. Tonight watching all the subreddits go private is the first time I’ve ever felt like Reddit is the next to die. If anyone from reddit corporate is reading this, understand tha…

at this point, there is only 1 way to save reddit, and it's so drastic that they wont do it because the ones who need to do it are too blind or too far away * fire spez * promise a clear committed roadmap of mod tools * promise to review 3rd party API pricing, and delay the current rollout It's literally the only way that will be accepted by the 1% that keep the site running (read the Ennui engine principle)

Delusional people with big egos fancy themselves as visionaries

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by madeofpalk »

alexruf wrote: post #170
MortimerDukePhD wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> spez / reddit ceo is a mod on r/programming How is it possible that these companies are still run like an immature dorm room shitshow? Are there no separation of duties? The CEO should not have admin access to anything (the very least for security purposes).

I guess you brought it right to the point: Reddit has never grown to a company it’s „dorm room shitshow“

Isn't "reddit isn't a real company, it's a dorm room shitshow" supposed to be the appeal of reddit? A 'real company' wouldn't have a free-for-all API to allow third parties to leach their ad revenue.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by pmlnr »

creshal wrote: post #61
pcwelder wrote: post #33

>It looks too spaced out People have similar complaints with Reddit re-design (so do I). What's with making websites "prettier" instead of more usable?

People who're already used to a website will prefer a dense layout, but new users can be intimidated by the information overload. But measuring and improving user retention is hard, and might need expensive measures like improving content quality, it's much easier to optimize onboarding new users by shuffling some stylesheets around. KPIs fulfilled, who cares about the rest.

> new users can be intimidated by the information overload

The learn to use it? There's now a reverse trend in appliances: they use to be simple, now they are quite complicated, see washing machines, yet people handle it.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by astrange »

tirpen wrote: post #167
MortimerDukePhD wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> spez / reddit ceo is a mod on r/programming How is it possible that these companies are still run like an immature dorm room shitshow? Are there no separation of duties? The CEO should not have admin access to anything (the very least for security purposes).

spez even infamously abused his admin access to edit another posters comment a while back. Calling it a dorm room shitshow is an insult to dorm rooms everywhere.

He was correct to do this, because it was funny. Any true longtime forum poster would recognize this. (Conversely, if it wasn't funny, he should've done it differently.)

Although doing Lowtax things may lead to turning into Lowtax, which is probably bad.

I can certainly tell you it's not a serious problem, because it'd be illegal if it was. All serious problems with websites are revenue issues or legal issues.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by qwytw »

user_named wrote: post #138
Ekaros wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe instead of this banning 3rd part Apps. They could charge all users 9.99 or 19.99 a month. Thus generate revenue for the IPO.

You'd probably get at most 5% signing up for the paid plan so the price would have to be more than 20x what they get from a free user seeing ads. Could work if they cut down the size of the organ but that has literally never happened

Also would force the platform into a death spiral. 95% of users leaving -> massive reduction in content -> more users leave -> no more content -> reddit is gone.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by stevenwliao »

Sander_Marechal wrote: post #143
zouhair wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lemmy and its instances could be it.

I've tried to register a Lemmy account but I can't. Many instances require you to write an essay about why you want to join, why you picked your username, etc, and then wait for approval. The Lemmy instances I found that don't do this appear to be overloaded. Kbin.social seems to be more stable, even if it's alpha software. And it integrates with Lemmy.

Good for signal, bad for scale.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by 23B1 »

lapser wrote: post #149

Why is it that companies go towards bad UX when they start ramping up profits? Download size is one thing, but ignoring that, how is it that they thought the new (Reddit) website was a good idea? Sure it's mobile friendly, but it's barely useable on mobile and desktop? For example: why do I have to constantly click read more? This seems to be a common thing with all kinds of companies, Digg, Facebook, many others. It…

I'm guessing it's because UX as a field has gone from focusing on usability and aesthetics to darkpatterns in the service of commercialization.
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