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Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by prmoustache »

notimetorelax wrote: post #130
dacryn wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

at this point, there is only 1 way to save reddit, and it's so drastic that they wont do it because the ones who need to do it are too blind or too far away * fire spez * promise a clear committed roadmap of mod tools * promise to review 3rd party API pricing, and delay the current rollout It's literally the only way that will be accepted by the 1% that keep the site running (read the Ennui engine principle)

Followed some of the links shared here, I fully agree now that the CEO should go. Earlier, he compromised the integrity of people’s speech by editing their posts: https://www.wired.co.uk/article/reddit-edit-post

Those that should go are the users really.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by yanderekko »

nvy wrote: post #24
ramraj07 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I sincerely hope Reddit feels the pressure and goes back, they have taken a bet in a different landscape as Digg: 1. The vast majority of Reddit users (maybe not the contributors) use the native app. I myself do as well. So this api change doesn’t affect me immediately (of course it does indirectly by restricting moderation and bots). 2. I open Reddit today and it’s different but not inferior. I’d argue the rea…

>The vast majority of Reddit users (maybe not the contributors) use the native app. I myself do as well. The idea that you'd willingly use an app with baked-in ads is insane to me, to say nothing of the fact that the official app performs very poorly and could charitably be described as "dogshit UX".

>The idea that you'd willingly use an app with baked-in ads is insane to me

Do you also boycott all movies with product placement in them?

Geez, no wonder Reddit is trying to kill third party apps..

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by Sander_Marechal »

zouhair wrote: post #72
boc wrote: post #12

I have a 14yo reddit account, and was a Digg user for years prior to that. While there were scandals like the HDDVD code stuff, ultimately the user-hostile Digg v4 redesign killed it for me- the day they forced it on everyone I never went back. Tonight watching all the subreddits go private is the first time I’ve ever felt like Reddit is the next to die. If anyone from reddit corporate is reading this, understand tha…

Lemmy and its instances could be it.

I've tried to register a Lemmy account but I can't. Many instances require you to write an essay about why you want to join, why you picked your username, etc, and then wait for approval. The Lemmy instances I found that don't do this appear to be overloaded.

Kbin.social seems to be more stable, even if it's alpha software. And it integrates with Lemmy.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by ant6n »

yanderekko wrote: post #128
dacryn wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

at this point, there is only 1 way to save reddit, and it's so drastic that they wont do it because the ones who need to do it are too blind or too far away * fire spez * promise a clear committed roadmap of mod tools * promise to review 3rd party API pricing, and delay the current rollout It's literally the only way that will be accepted by the 1% that keep the site running (read the Ennui engine principle)

>It's literally the only way that will be accepted by the 1% that keep the site running (read the Ennui engine principle) What makes the activists here think that they can speak for this 1%?

They don’t speak for, they give an estimation of their opinion.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by that_guy_iain »

boc wrote: post #12

I have a 14yo reddit account, and was a Digg user for years prior to that. While there were scandals like the HDDVD code stuff, ultimately the user-hostile Digg v4 redesign killed it for me- the day they forced it on everyone I never went back. Tonight watching all the subreddits go private is the first time I’ve ever felt like Reddit is the next to die. If anyone from reddit corporate is reading this, understand tha…

Realistically, I would say Reddit users are playing with fire.

Reddit is owned and controlled by VCS who have been finding out playground in the hopes of future profits. We all know and understand the game. They hoped they built a website where the users were assets. The Reddit users think they are assets. However, it Reddit can’t make a profit off of them. They aren’t assets they are liabilities.

Any site wanting to replace Reddit would need either someone with a sizeable amount of cash to fund it or VC money. Realistically, this is the week where we find out if Reddit users are assets or liabilities. If they’re liabilities who wants to fund a replacement?

What happens is they can’t make money off the API? I would presume cancel the IPO and make mass layoffs, cut everything to the barebones and make money that way. VCS will make their money while the site burns.

However, what will Redditors do? Go to a bunch of small communities where the group knowledge is smaller and not as good.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by Nursie »

jfengel wrote: post #86

That was 16 years ago, and it's going along just fine. I don't think it ever held a really dominant position. It was never famous or well known. It seems content to have a loyalish fan base who either see ads or pay to remove them. That seems to pay to keep it alive and a smallish staff to keep it running, and it doesn't seem to desire any more than that. The comments right from the beginning of that thread are sarca…

I paid for fark for a while back then, even organised a couple of London fark get togethers in the mid 00s.

It was great fun at the time, but I guess I got bored with the format and the snark and at some point life moved on. I don't remember site design being part of it...

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by MortimerDukePhD »

matsemann wrote: post #102
dacryn wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

at this point, there is only 1 way to save reddit, and it's so drastic that they wont do it because the ones who need to do it are too blind or too far away * fire spez * promise a clear committed roadmap of mod tools * promise to review 3rd party API pricing, and delay the current rollout It's literally the only way that will be accepted by the 1% that keep the site running (read the Ennui engine principle)

Or they can continue their failed attempts at using chatgpt to astroturf a counter-movement, lol: https://i.imgur.com/4e9jO7P.jpg Edit, some context: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/146wn9s/commen... (spez / reddit ceo is a mod on r/programming, hence it still being up)

> spez / reddit ceo is a mod on r/programming

How is it possible that these companies are still run like an immature dorm room shitshow? Are there no separation of duties? The CEO should not have admin access to anything (the very least for security purposes).

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by yanderekko »

Dalewyn wrote: post #62
nvy wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The vast majority of Reddit users (maybe not the contributors) use the native app. I myself do as well. The idea that you'd willingly use an app with baked-in ads is insane to me, to say nothing of the fact that the official app performs very poorly and could charitably be described as "dogshit UX".

The problem is you don't have the mindset of Joe Average. It's something most of us lose as we become nerds, enthusiasts, professionals, etc. We become disconnected with the commons. As a Joe Average, computers are an appliance and the internet is merely a service like broadcast television. Reddit is merely a channel on broadcast television like CNN or BBC, and it's natural to use Reddit to use Reddit. Do you watch s…

>The problem is you don't have the mindset of Joe Average. It's something most of us lose as we become nerds, enthusiasts, professionals, etc. We become disconnected with the commons.

Oh please, becoming a principled free rider is not some sort of enlightened stance. This is just a dressed-up version of the person who pirates whatever media they feel like because, like, capitalism sucks man.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by lapser »

Why is it that companies go towards bad UX when they start ramping up profits? Download size is one thing, but ignoring that, how is it that they thought the new (Reddit) website was a good idea? Sure it's mobile friendly, but it's barely useable on mobile and desktop? For example: why do I have to constantly click read more?

This seems to be a common thing with all kinds of companies, Digg, Facebook, many others. It's not like you can't build ads into the current site, right? Tracking can be easily built-in these days. Sure it'll decrease initial download speeds, but the UX won't be as terrible as what they keep coming up with.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by sznio »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #79
rapsey wrote: post #32

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Reddit is still not profitable.

Profit depends on 2 things, revenue and expenses. Reddit has tripled their headcount over the last few years so they can focus on new features like NFTs. If they were concerned about sustainable profitability, IMO they should've kept their headcount around 500 people and tried to grow revenue without totally blowing up their costs.

I wouldn't be surprised if reddit was profitable/at least broke even 8 years ago.

Reddit needs 300 people max to run, and they got like 1500.

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