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Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by specialist »

wpietri wrote: post #641
WalterBright wrote: post #577

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Making a profit is how it becomes sustainable.

No. Profit maximization is often in conflict with sustainability. That's part of the devil's bargain of VC money. If it looks like your company will be a modest success, they will push you to make it a giant one no matter how much that increases the risk of failure.

Yes and: examples of modest success like craigslist, metafilter, ravelry, etc. Like you wrote elsethread, paraphrasing, avoid the trap of unicorn or bust.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by Eisenstein »

yanderekko wrote: post #835
Eisenstein wrote: post #584

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> When capitalist logic was being used to justify Reddit going after hate speech, powerusers loved it. So, being anti-hate-speech is a bad thing, to you?

Hypocrisy is a bad thing to me. "No bad tactics, only bad targets" is a bad thing to me.

If your principles were used as a lever to undermine your principles would you still adhere to them?

You seem to be very principled but from what you have written so far you don't seem to acknowledge or understand that some people operate in bad faith. This comes across particularly when you state that people should operate within reddit's rules but neglect to take into account that reddit is not adhering to the rules themselves and that this is a breach of any ability to have a civil relationship. This is also frequently the case with the loud 'free speech' cries by 'bad targets'. Many of them have no intention of ever giving anyone who disagrees with them the same offer. How do you deal with people like that except to disregard them entirely?

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by HKH2 »

andrewfelix wrote: post #811
HKH2 wrote: post #362

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Reddit is not going to change. It seems quite a few people don't mind being abused a bit to get the convenience they want. Nothing's going to happen.

Some of Twitter's best content creators have given up on it. That combined with blue tick prioritisation and lack of moderation has seen it turn into a cesspit. I don't see why that doesn't happen on Reddit. Sure the people who go to discuss player trades in international sport and doom scroll dank memes will stick around, but a lot of the quality content could evaporate.

How many people have stuck to Mastodon?

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by littlestymaar »

nomel wrote: post #781
littlestymaar wrote: post #325

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Wikipedia manages to be extremely profitable, maybe reddit execs just suck at their job and should be fired…

Mostly through deception, and full pages ads, though. https://m.slashdot.org/story/275835

Yes, but that's still orders of magnitude less bad that what Reddit has been doing.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by TX81Z »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #495
TX81Z wrote: post #272

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Necessity is the mother of invention. A CRUD app with a UX so bad people feel the need to use third-party clients isn’t exactly a moat. Half the people here could scaffold a Reddit clone in a week or less.

The moat is that it has users, not that it’s impossible to clone. Though developers vastly underestimate the difficulty in cloning something as well. As someone who thought it would be trivial to clone phpbb, it’s a lot of work to reach just feature parity. Your clone isn’t even going to have users to motivate you beyond the first 0.1% of the work.

I mean more like “going head to head against Microsoft in office productivity” type moat, vs “this is hard for a solo dev with no budget” type moat.

Reddit has no real moat.

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Post by pwpw »

With users deleting their comments, Reddit reducing API access, and other trends such as moving discussions behind Discord, this certainly feels like a Library of Alexandria moment: a gradual decline of loss of knowledge. Hopefully we can find a way to better store the wealth of knowledge that has been shared over the internet.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by Panzer04 »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #436
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #33

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They of course know (at the time of the mass Digg exodus Reddit specifically changed their alien icon to welcome Digg refugees), but the difference is that they are betting on the fact that right now there is no immediately obvious alternative, like Reddit was to Digg a decade ago.

> the difference is that they are betting on the fact that right now there is no immediately obvious alternative, like Reddit was to Digg a decade ago. Discord. I know, I know—it's built for real-time chat, it's harder to search, etc etc... but a lot of subreddits already have associated Discord servers. I could see a lot of communities naturally migrating there. Maybe as a temporary stop-gap, maybe permanently. Youn…

Discord won't make it. I find reddit useful because for any particular query I want a mostly user-based answer for I can google term + reddit. Discord jsut doesn't have the same discourse because it's designed for quick back-and-forth chats, not more in-depth self-supporting commentary.

It just doesn't fulfill the same purpose. IME, I ignore discords from most subreddits because they do basically nothing for me unless it's a topic i'm extremely interested and engaged in.

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Post by TX81Z »

nomel wrote: post #784
TX81Z wrote: post #262

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…until people stop using it because other people stopped using it. They are playing with fire.

There’s no viable alternative, at the moment (especially Lemmy). I fully assume this will blow over. Digg users had somewhere very obvious, already established, to go.

I mean, the web is big right? There are plenty of forums people still use, maybe some big subreddit just go back that route.

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Post by SllX »

0xr0kk3r wrote: post #717
munchler wrote: post #700

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Many of us are quitting Reddit for good on June 30 when Apollo and the other third-party apps are killed. This week's strike is just a warning shot across Reddit's bow.

I don’t believe that for a hot minute. These peoples’ identities are so wrapped up in Reddit it’s be like amputating a limb. No way.

There is a ton of information I need to make sure I have saved, so I might not be out by June 30th, but I can’t see myself using Reddit remotely like I do through Apollo. Mobile apps made Reddit for me when the primary reason I hadn’t made an account till 2013 was because I thought even the old website was bad.

Alien Blue, BaconReader, Narwhal, and then eventually Apollo. All of them great apps, and that was Reddit for me.

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