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Post by twobitshifter »

guyomes wrote: post #471
mattkevan wrote: post #363

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I have a theory, after working for one of the UK’s largest social networks, that no-one who runs a social network understands what made it work or why it continues to work. Therefore they are extremely reluctant to make changes in case they break it (e.g. old twitter), and because they don’t understand it, any large changes they do make are generally negative (new twitter, Reddit). Plus, in my experience , users will…

> It’s their space. Changing anything is like someone’s snuck into their house at night and remodelled their lounge. This reminds me a discussion with a landscaper. He was wary of landscapers who wanted to go against the flow and who view themselves as painter artists. He explained the fundamental difference between his work and the work of a painter as follows : "a painter makes a work of art for people to see, and…

Could say the same for architects. It’s why many people hate modern towers.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by memefrog »

htag wrote: post #454
TheCaptain4815 wrote: post #428

As I’ve continued to repeat, a change in user preference (mostly from one ideology) is to blame for this. Reddit went from pretty much complete free speech to one of the most censored websites in existence. Huge portions of America now prefer censorship so Reddit has in essence created a moat for themselves. If Americans were more accepting of all speech like before, Reddit clones would be easy to switch to. Now, you…

I've come to associate online platforms marketing themselves as free speech havens as being extremely far right ideologically. Are there any examples of non-censored media that either doesn't cover politics or covers the entire spectrum?

Reddit before about 2018?

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by wpietri »

the_doctah wrote: post #654
wpietri wrote: post #366

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Traffic is down modestly, revenue is down dramatically, outages are up, bugs are up, abuse is up, many users have departed, and the value of the company has fallen by something between half and two thirds. One of its core assets, the blue checkmark for verified notable accounts, has been permanently destroyed. I no longer use it, but word from my friends who still do is that is has become grimmer, less fun. Musk has…

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I did not get fired by Elon, so that's a swing and a miss. Any other straw men you wanted to try?

You're wrong about the "average user" enjoying "free speech", of course. That's the view Twitter started out on, "the free speech wing of the free speech party". But they learned that certain kinds of speech drove away users and made it hard to sell ads, so for very good business reasons, they decided to take away the "free speech" of people to, say, shout the n-word at black people. [1]

I believe you enjoy it more, of course. But other people enjoy it less. You and Musk are making the same mistake in thinking a thing that you like is a thing that everybody will like. Running a social network means you have to create something that is liked by a very wide variety of people. And a lot of people who wave the "free speech" banner just turn out to want no constraints on their own speech, while having much less concern about creating a place where a wide variety of people can safely speak up and be heard.

[1] Something that surged under Musk's new "free speech" regime. e.g., https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/02/tech/twitter-hate-speech/inde...

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by wds »

forbiddenlake wrote: post #355
com wrote: post #320

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Have you checked out https://tilde.net - I’m not connected to it (not even a registered user) but it looks solid.

That gives me a cert error then an Outlook Web Acess login. What is it? edit: presumably, https://tildes.net/ with an s

>Tildes is currently in invite-only alpha

Worked great for Google+!

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by esskay »

anonred wrote: post #570
drexlspivey wrote: post #195

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I don't get why you can't just bring your own API key with Apollo. It seems pretty simple to have the user go through Oauth to set up an app and have his own quota.

Please don’t do this, it’ll just make it even harder for actual developers and moderators to use Reddit’s API if people start abusing it.

Using your own API key is hardly abusing it. Officially (not that it means much these days) they've said they're keeping it free for individuals with 'standard' usage, which is what one sole user in an app would be.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by farhanhubble »

mattkevan wrote: post #363
jcims wrote: post #34

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Reddit is basically successful despite itself. It's wild.

I have a theory, after working for one of the UK’s largest social networks, that no-one who runs a social network understands what made it work or why it continues to work. Therefore they are extremely reluctant to make changes in case they break it (e.g. old twitter), and because they don’t understand it, any large changes they do make are generally negative (new twitter, Reddit). Plus, in my experience , users will…

The theory seems correct. Social media like stock markets is a collection of lots streams of random user behavior. It's difficult to pin down what users value except the fact that controversial stuff, scam artists etc are always a hit followed by a long long tail of small niches.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by O1111OOO »

nologic01 wrote: post #404
jcims wrote: post #34

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Reddit is basically successful despite itself. It's wild.

What are the alternatives exactly? Until we get interoperating platforms where people can easily migrate and reward the places that treat them the best we are stuck with the few platforms that managed to create network lock-in. The social media as a prison operating model.

I find myself spreading out. I created accounts with lemmy (app: jerboa) and mastodon (app: trunks).

HN and RSS remain in the mix. Also using my mobile browser's option to create a shortcut/browserApp for a few news sites. There really is an awful lot out there - I'm just beginning to look (again).

Interestingly... last year - with no effort on my part - reddit became an also-ran when I dived into TikTok. When I left TikTok, reddit re-entered the picture.

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Post by wpietri »

nebula8804 wrote: post #617
machdiamonds wrote: post #414

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As a user, I think Twitter is better now, notably with the Community Notes feature that even Zuckerberg commended on Lex's podcast - I hope he introduces a similar concept. The option to post extended threads is appreciated. I hardly come across political content as I avoid engagement with it, and I find it beneficial that creating an account is no longer necessary for viewing Tweets and responses.

If I understand correctly this was a feature already nearly completed as Twitter was being acquired and Elon just rolled it out and took credit.

That's correct. It was launched as "Birdwatch" long before Musk arrived: https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/product/2021/introduci...

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Post by wpietri »

nebula8804 wrote: post #593
wpietri wrote: post #87

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Twitter too! When I worked there they jokingly referred to the head of product as the defense against the dark arts teacher, in that every year or so they'd disappear mysteriously and there'd be a new one. Most of Twitter's successes came from watching what users were actually doing and supporting that (e.g., at mentions, retweets, quote tweets). Many of their failures have been trying to graft on something irrelevan…

Wait a second, I could be totally wrong on this but I thought Twitter nearing bankruptcy was the real reason they sunset Vine?

Twitter wasn't doing great at the time, but from the way Dorsey now talks about it, I don't think it was Vine or Bankruptcy: https://www.businessinsider.com/jack-dorsey-biggest-regret-k...
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