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Re: Ask HN: What is going on with Apple Weather?

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Post by kranke155 »

samwillis wrote: post #8

I'm usually a proponent of Apple, but the failure to deliver the same usability as DarkSky after the acquisition is so disappointing. With DarkSky you could open the app and without a single click have an overview of the next 24hr, and only a single click for detailed figures such as wind speed. As well as an overview of the next week. Now with Apple Weather you have to click after opening the app to get to a proper…

Same here. Dark sky was the best app in the category and weather hasn’t gotten anywhere close.

Re: Ask HN: What is going on with Apple Weather?

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Post by saaaaaam »

Interesting. I’ve been feeling for the past couple of months that Apple Weather is wildly inaccurate suddenly, and when I’ve mentioned this to a few other people they’ve all said “what, you too? I thought it was just me!”

That could just be Baader Meinhof but interesting that I’m now seeing it mentioned here. It’s out by about 6-7C on temperatures and often forecasts rain when there isn’t any.

Re: Ask HN: What is going on with Apple Weather?

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Post by dv_dt »

saaaaaam wrote: post #22

Interesting. I’ve been feeling for the past couple of months that Apple Weather is wildly inaccurate suddenly, and when I’ve mentioned this to a few other people they’ve all said “what, you too? I thought it was just me!” That could just be Baader Meinhof but interesting that I’m now seeing it mentioned here. It’s out by about 6-7C on temperatures and often forecasts rain when there isn’t any.

I have similar inaccuracies from Apple Weather in temperature, but also failure to predicting rain when rain is on the regional forecast checked against the nws and actual rain outcomes. Worse than Dark Sky that Apple acquired.

I’m on the Southern CA area. And today no rain possible on Apple Weather, 40% shower on NWS.

Re: Ask HN: What is going on with Apple Weather?

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Post by bsaul »

saaaaaam wrote: post #22

Interesting. I’ve been feeling for the past couple of months that Apple Weather is wildly inaccurate suddenly, and when I’ve mentioned this to a few other people they’ve all said “what, you too? I thought it was just me!” That could just be Baader Meinhof but interesting that I’m now seeing it mentioned here. It’s out by about 6-7C on temperatures and often forecasts rain when there isn’t any.

Same here ( france ), we talked about this a few weeks ago with a friend, and it's now common knowledge that the app is simply not good.

Re: Ask HN: What is going on with Apple Weather?

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Post by contact9879 »

SkyPuncher wrote: post #14

Most people don’t understand how rain is actually forecast. The forecast applies to an entire area, not just your point on the map. That means it could rain somewhere in the area of the forecast and the forecast would be correct. However, your experience of the forecast could feel entirely wrong. Even if you see a 100% chance of rain, your specific location could remain dry. Likewise, a 10% chance of rain could have…

I understand how rain is forecast. But Foreca, Weather Channel, and AccuWeather have not had similar issues. This is an issue with Apple Weather and their WeatherKit API forecasting rain no matter the actual conditions.

Re: Ask HN: What is going on with Apple Weather?

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Post by contact9879 »

SkyPuncher wrote: post #15
contact9879 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve switched to Carrot weather instead and it offers Apple Weather as a source which gives similar results as the main weather app. Seems to be something wrong with the weather API. I use Foreca as a source primarily now.

My understanding is the pandemic actually caused some serious gaps in weather forecasts. Some commercial flights transmit weather conditions to central authorities , which are extremely useful for building granular forecasts. During the pandemic, commercial air traffic plummeted. While it has returned to normal levels, it seems the models are still missing some historical data.

Interesting. Not sure that is the issue here though. No other weather forecasting source has had similar issues recently.

Re: Ask HN: What is going on with Apple Weather?

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Post by contact9879 »

seltzered_ wrote: post #12

While I doubt it has the accuracy of darksky, it's worth noting there's been an alternative website with a similar layout: https://merrysky.net

I use merrysky all the time! It's a great resource and uses the https://pirateweather.net api. It's not as accurate as TWC or Accuweather or Foreca but I really like the layout.

Re: Ask HN: What is going on with Apple Weather?

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Post by contact9879 »

tracerbulletx wrote: post #5

I've also been experiencing weird behavior like that. Also the radar map fails to load a lot, and sometimes it looks like the radar animation plays backwards? Seems pretty unreliable. I've been using Windy instead.

Windy has been great. I am in dire need of a quality weather app for Android in the same vein of Carrot for iOS and the old Dark Sky app. The foreca app is buggy and ugly, the Carrot app is severely handicapped, Weather Channel and Accuweather are more ads/news focused. While Windy is useful, its primary use as a weather map doesn't match my primary use case of daily and hourly forecasts.

Re: Ask HN: What is going on with Apple Weather?

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Post by mobilio »

beckler wrote: post #4

I’m on the latest iOS version and I’m experiencing the same. However, my wife is a few minor versions behind, and her‘s is much more accurate.

Same here - i'm on iOS 14 and iOS15 (long story) while wife is on iOS16 (iPadOS) and we're debating same.

Seems that mine old versions are much more accurate.

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