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Inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid

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Re: Inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid

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cheaprentalyeti wrote: post #96
th0ma5 wrote: post #67

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Because if we're relying on the people who are funding bioweapons research in hostile countries to tell us how to treat said viruses, under the delusion that they'd learn something useful, it's the kind of thing we need to know about before waking up three years later and finding out (per the Northwestern study) that we could have avoided a lot of deaths by simply following the sort of treatment regimen we used for m…

Why not do something about this directly. This lab leak wild goose chase isn't required.

Re: Inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid

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Post by khazhoux »

th0ma5 wrote: post #67
hayst4ck wrote: post #57

If anyone's in for a long read, despite the hokey sounding name, I found this to be one of the best contemporaneous explorations of Covid in china that I've seen to date: https://project-evidence.github.io/

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For one, if it was proven that a lab leak was the cause of such global destruction, that may encourage stronger lab regulations in the future.

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Post by camillomiller »

LanceH wrote: post #14
pyuser583 wrote: post #13

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There was a peer reviewed paper earlier in the pandemic where scientists used their knowledge of viral anatomy to argue it wasn’t engineered. Subsequent scientific have disagreed. But this isn’t purely historical.

Apologies to those accused of being conspiracy theorists, xenophobic, and spreading misinformation will be going out shortly.

They will not, because those accusations came from people who intended to use them to discredit Chinese people in general, or that closely associate the leak with the Chinese way of doing things and so on. These accusation led to racist attacks against Asian people all over the us.

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wwtdtgotiatl wrote: post #98
Thorentis wrote: post #68

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They're not implying anything. They're nearly making the observation that the supposed reason this lab existed was to research dangeours viruses like covid, and yet the lab itself did nothing to help during the pandemic.

> yet the lab itself did nothing to help during the pandemic. Which people in this thread are somehow believing as truth instead of the bald-faced propaganda it is. Do you actually think a virus research lab in the epicentre of an outbreak would not be put to use? From Wikipedia: > As the virus spread worldwide, the institute continued its investigation. In February 2020, a team led by Shi Zhengli at the institute we…

Gene sequencing is table stakes with modern tech, and many countries did that during the pandemic. We don't need a BSL-4 level lab in the middle of a large city to do a gene sequence. It happened that they published early what many other labs would have done (and did do). On the other hand, the vaccines and effective cures had nothing to do with their work. The benefit/risk ratio seems very poor here.

Re: Inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid

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Post by inciampati »

th0ma5 wrote: post #65
inciampati wrote: post #63

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No, not all labs working on viruses do research on dangerous viruses. Bacteriophages for instance, are a deep research topic, and (aside from potential effects on our microbiome) are completely benign to humans. That's just one of many counterexamples.

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They prefaced the statement with "most importantly" so it seems they thought it was their key point.

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throwaway2990 wrote: post #66
th0ma5 wrote: post #56

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Protect them from what? Being blamed? What does that do except stoke fear? There are actual things to talk about like their aggressive naval horseshit why do we have to make them nefarious mind controllers or secret world saboteurs or whatever this lab leak hypothesis is supposed to prove.

Knowing how the virus leaked allows us to figure out how to try and prevent it happening again. When you cover it up, prevent investigations, destroy data, and try to blame the rest of the world. That does not help understand how we can prevent it happening again. If China was open and honest from day 1, countries would have actually tried to help. But instead all the CCP did was hide it and blame everyone else. It’s…

Yeah, in fact being honest, sincere and collaborative with foreign powers is the tenet of NSA, CIA, and all major security agencies in the USA, right?
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