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> Witnesses are said to have told the US investigation that Zhou fell from the roof of the Wuhan institute, although this has not been verified. This guy who published a suspiciously early patent on a covid 19 vaccine fell off a roof three months later? That’s kind of buried in the article a bit but was this claim been made anywhere else? Also, the section on activity at the lab at the time of the outbreak does not m…
After a quick read of the article, it presents no new data, and is replete with innuendo pointing at the Wuhan lab, rather than any direct evidence. Most importantly, the general reader should know that all labs researching viruses do research on dangerous viruses. After all there is no incentive to research benign viruses. So the fact that the Wuhan lab worked on coronaviruses is not in itself an indication of any i…
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Don't ascribe motive ("cause xenophobic feelings") unless you can back it up.
That's the very point I'm trying to make about this dubious article and all the people posting conspiracy theories here. How can we say they aren't trying to cause xenophobic feelings?
After a quick read of the article, it presents no new data, and is replete with innuendo pointing at the Wuhan lab, rather than any direct evidence. Most importantly, the general reader should know that all labs researching viruses do research on dangerous viruses. After all there is no incentive to research benign viruses. So the fact that the Wuhan lab worked on coronaviruses is not in itself an indication of any i…
No, not all labs working on viruses do research on dangerous viruses. Bacteriophages for instance, are a deep research topic, and (aside from potential effects on our microbiome) are completely benign to humans. That's just one of many counterexamples.
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The lab leak theory started in China. It has never been about xenophobia. The only people pushing the whole xenophobia thing was the CCP. Chinese news called it wuhan virus long after it was given the name Covid-19. So stop trying to protect the CCP.
Protect them from what? Being blamed? What does that do except stoke fear? There are actual things to talk about like their aggressive naval horseshit why do we have to make them nefarious mind controllers or secret world saboteurs or whatever this lab leak hypothesis is supposed to prove.
When you cover it up, prevent investigations, destroy data, and try to blame the rest of the world. That does not help understand how we can prevent it happening again.
If China was open and honest from day 1, countries would have actually tried to help. But instead all the CCP did was hide it and blame everyone else.
It’s clear that you side with the CCP. You don’t want to prevent another pandemic or make sure people are safe. All you seem to want to do is defend them and get angry at everyone who wants to discuss the issue.
If anyone's in for a long read, despite the hokey sounding name, I found this to be one of the best contemporaneous explorations of Covid in china that I've seen to date: https://project-evidence.github.io/
Leaving aside the question of where and how the virus emerged, it's interesting to note that the lab was nigh useless during the pandemic, despite its main specialty was investigating Coronaviruses! It looks like a lot of dangerous research went on, and even if nothing bad happened because of that research, nothing was gained. A lot of risk for nothing.
Are you implying the lab shouldn't have existed at all? And/or future coronavirus labs shouldn't exist either?
Leaving aside the question of where and how the virus emerged, it's interesting to note that the lab was nigh useless during the pandemic, despite its main specialty was investigating Coronaviruses! It looks like a lot of dangerous research went on, and even if nothing bad happened because of that research, nothing was gained. A lot of risk for nothing.
Are you implying the lab shouldn't have existed at all? And/or future coronavirus labs shouldn't exist either?
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't ascribe motive ("cause xenophobic feelings") unless you can back it up.
That's the very point I'm trying to make about this dubious article and all the people posting conspiracy theories here. How can we say they aren't trying to cause xenophobic feelings?