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Yes… its the bible quote not justifying the execution of a person. It’s beyond amazing to me how dense some people are.
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Yes… its the bible quote not justifying the execution of a person. It’s beyond amazing to me how dense some people are.
See my other comment in this thread as you’ve misinterpreted what I’ve said. I’m still trying to figure out how, but perhaps I’ve internalized Christian ethics to a point where my stance seems obvious to me but not to you!
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#483It's worth noting Kaczynski was the subject of a brutal psychological experiment while a young student at Harvard. It's unfortunate in the present day that so many naive tech individuals don't understand that they've been deliberately recruited by the left in universities worldwide via indoctrination one class at a time. https://www.history.com/news/what-happened-to-the-unabomber-...
> Harvard. It's unfortunate in the present day that so many naive tech individuals don't understand that they've been deliberately recruited by the left in universities worldwide via indoctrination one class at a time Can you elaborate what you mean by that? I find the notion ridiculous, but I’d like more detail before I write it off.
Universities, especially the more prestigious ones, have been trending towards aggressively simplistic labeling of complex social issues. While their stated goal is to protect minorities, the oversimplification increases polarization and division. These doctrines in fact harm the minorities that they were intended to help, by forcing people to choose a side. Plus, they focus too much on the negatives, when we need more positive, meaningful, constructive discourse.
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He was an MKUltra victim, which was a CIA project
There does not seem to be any evidence that corroborates this. The most I can find are claims that some records were destroyed, so we won't know. That doesn't automatically mean there is a connection, though.
Let's unwrap this.
It seems pretty uncontroversial that Kaczynski has participated in series of psychological experiments by Henry Murray. Do you accept this fact?
It seems to be well supported via anecdotal evidence that these experiments were quite brutal and stressful, one might even call them torture. Do you agree with this?
We know that the psychologist in question (Henry Murray) was associated with the Office of Strategic Services. Are you with me on this?
We know that the Office of Strategic Services is the predecessor of the CIA.
So what we know is that we have a researcher in the orbit of OSS/CIA who conducted brutal experiments on Kaczynski. So that is the connection you are looking for.
We do not know if these experiments were part of the CIA program running under the codename MKUltra, or if they were part of some other CIA supported program under some other codename.
> The most I can find are claims that some records were destroyed, so we won't know.
You are making it sound like mice got to archived papers or the ink faded. But that is not the case. The CIA director ordered all documentation regarding MKUltra to be destroyed in 1973. That is it. Those papers would have told us for certain what is the truth. They made sure they are destroyed.
As you say the fact that the documents were destroyed doesn't prove that Henry Murray's experiments were CIA backed. That would be crazy speak.
But it is also not entirely fair to say that there is no connection whatsoever. In the absence of hard evidence we won't ever know for certain, but we can make reasonable inferences.
If you disagree with anything I wrote in the above please be specific which part of it do you disagree with.
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right, and then the guy who wrote the report later "killed himself" with two gunshots to the head.
People shooting themselves in the head often reflexively pull the trigger twice. Do you suppose the elite hit squad that came to kill him simply added an extra bullet by mistake?
from what I have been able to determine, this does not seem to be true—people who die from multiple self-inflicted gunshot wounds to the head seem to be quite few and far between.
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As a non American, the dichotomy that is all the rage nowadays is two camps whose position is literally just "we hate everything the other side loves". The point of Kaczynski is that both camps are mostly composed of middle-class Western academics living a sheltered life that are deciding who is socially accepted and who need to be cancelled. Our culture wars are not minorities shouting for a better life, our culture…
You don't know much about Martin Luther King, do you?
> You don't know much about Martin Luther King, do you?
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#487One of my good friend’s dad was brutally murdered by Kaczynski when she was a young teenager. A small bomb in a package that used razor blazes, nails, and other bits of metal to nearly tear his head off while his young family was in the house with him. And it turns out the victim was the “wrong” man, as he didn’t even work on the project Kaczynski wanted to bring “retribution” for. Kaczynski May have said some intere…
thanks for posting and sorry for your loss. I've heard the name TK first when reading Bill Joy's "Why the Future Doesn't Need Us". 15 years later I was burnt out and increasingly aware that Tech was not a force of good. I went on a 3 year journey trying to understand what made TK chose violence. It can't just be the struggle of a Pollak getting people to pronounce his name correctly, however hard that is. I started b…
> And he opens your eyes about edge cases and the victims of this thinking in ways even heavyweights like Nassim Taleb will seem like a rookies in comparison.
Nassim Taleb is not a heavyweight by any stretch.
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> The reason Kaczynski stopped He stopped because he was arrested. At that time they found two completed bombs in his cabin, so he was planning to renege on his deal not to plant any more bombs.
Them finding two completed bombs is not evidence that he planned to plant them.
A guy with a history of bombing buildings has more bombs at his house and you say it's not demonstrative of future bombings?
I don't see it, man, I think you just want to go against the grain, here.
Explain yourself.
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Not every Unabomer victim was killed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Gelernter
The original comment speaks of knowing someone killed by Kaczynski. I never said anything concerning the number of his maiming victims or potential victims.
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#490There’s a podcast series called “Cabin” by The Relentless Picnic that does an excellent dive into Kaczynski’s manifesto, the relatable bits as well as his deficiencies, and contrasts it with Thoreau, ties it into some email they got from an angry incel type guy, as well as a bunch of personal stuff the casters are going through themselves.
It really defies categorization into a genre or anything but it’s really insightful.