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I don’t believe you. Teslas have a cabin camera that monitors your gaze and quickly emits warnings if you look at your phone while autopilot is on. If you ignore the warnings, the car puts it emergency flashers on, pulls over, and disables autonomous driving until your next trip. If you do the five times with the FSD beta, you are banned from using FSD.
> are banned from using FSD Do you get a refund?
Mercedes beats Tesla to autonomous driving in California
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Yeah this isn’t beating Tesla to anything. If you constrain a system to where it’s effectively useless and declare victory, that’s worse than trying to actually solve the problem and saying you’re not there yet. It’s lowering the goal precipitously until you can achieve and then pretending you did it. Tesla has flaws, but this is a dumb article.
> Yeah this isn’t beating Tesla to anything. They beat Tesla to being certified in California as Level 3, with restrictions.
They can check a box and make this press release though, I guess that’s worth something.
Re: Mercedes beats Tesla to autonomous driving in California
#314Friendly reminder that this system is HEAVILY limited, with the following restrictions: - Must be under 40 mph - Only during the daylight and only on certain highways - CANNOT be operated on city/country streets - CANNOT be operated in construction zones - CANNOT be during heavy rain or fog or flood roads And for comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjZSZTKYEU4 Tesla FSD navigating the complex city streets of…
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#315It doesn’t take a lot to retro-fit roads with autonomous guardrail markers when we repave. It’s going to take a federal-level effort to accomplish this (which should have been apart of pandemic infrastructure stimulus). I strongly believe this would improve safety for autonomous vehicles by 1000x.
There’s just no need for this. Tesla can detect even the most poorly defined edges of a dirt road without a problem.
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#316We’ve actually had nearly self driving vehicles for over a century. They’re called trains. We should invest in some. The navigation problem gets way easier
Driverless trains are actually a pretty new thing, being on tracks is not as set/forget as people assume. If you mean "transportation where I'm not driving" then sure but taxis also fit that bill.
Re: Mercedes beats Tesla to autonomous driving in California
#317Friendly reminder that this system is HEAVILY limited, with the following restrictions: - Must be under 40 mph - Only during the daylight and only on certain highways - CANNOT be operated on city/country streets - CANNOT be operated in construction zones - CANNOT be during heavy rain or fog or flood roads And for comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjZSZTKYEU4 Tesla FSD navigating the complex city streets of…
> This seems like a marketing gimmick by Mercedes at best;
No, this is what a professional roll-out of a feature like this should look like.
> the two technologies aren't even in the same league. > Any comparison is laughable.
Well, at least we agree on these two. But probably not about the direction.
Re: Mercedes beats Tesla to autonomous driving in California
#318Friendly reminder that this system is HEAVILY limited, with the following restrictions: - Must be under 40 mph - Only during the daylight and only on certain highways - CANNOT be operated on city/country streets - CANNOT be operated in construction zones - CANNOT be during heavy rain or fog or flood roads And for comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjZSZTKYEU4 Tesla FSD navigating the complex city streets of…
It's very different goals, the Tesla approach is more of a hack, which is to release things, without any liability or guarantee "we quickly hacked this together, good luck, if you die or get injured this is your problem!", and Mercedes is delivering a product that only support a few features but do it well, and they put their responsibility on it.
Or kill someone who didn't ask for any of this
Re: Mercedes beats Tesla to autonomous driving in California
#319Clickbait title to say the least ! While Tesla did amazing things for EVs adoption, and self driving (even if one may say the main contribution is hyping it) it’s hard to see them as leaders anymore. Fact is, Mercedes is taking responsibility for its system while Tesla is not. Tesla claims (and especially it’s fanboys) starts to look like Theranos. Yeah it almost work and it will be a game changer. Yeah well… I’m cur…
What has Mercedes ceo commented about it?
I think you’ll find Mercedes just don’t publish anything, where as Tesla pretty much develop in the open. Regardless of the sausage, some people just don’t like knowing how it’s made.
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#320Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's very different goals, the Tesla approach is more of a hack, which is to release things, without any liability or guarantee "we quickly hacked this together, good luck, if you die or get injured this is your problem!", and Mercedes is delivering a product that only support a few features but do it well, and they put their responsibility on it.
What features does Tesla FSD offer that Mercedes doesn’t?