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So rich people (who really do not care about few dollars) will be able to drive to downtown just for fun. while poor people who truly need to come to downtown by car will struggle. This is an unfortunate reality of life: wealth equates to more available time.
Everything with a price is unkind to poor people.
So you can't do anything that affects poor people? What rule/principle are you suggesting then, to get anything done?
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Do expensive cars create worse traffic?
No but their drivers can pay more thus increasing revenue for public transit, like income all taxes should be progressive :)
"Drivers who make less than $50,000 a year or are enrolled in certain government aid programs will get 25% discounts after their first 10 trips every month. Trucks and other vehicles will get 50% discounts during overnight hours."
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Do you have a citation for that claim? Here are a few refuting it: https://bikeportland.org/2016/01/25/low-income-households-dr... https://medium.com/100-hours/is-congestion-pricing-fair-to-t... https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2017/3/7/toll-roads-hurt...
I didn’t make a quantitative claim, just a qualitative one based on anecdotal evidence. I put about 1000 miles a year on my car, but I paid a lot of money to get to the point that I could do feasibly that. I’m not unusual in this either, a lot of rich techies go for urban car-light lifestyles if they can afford it. The above studies seem to only focus on the poorest of the poor, and not the lower middle class. Conges…
Per the article itself: "But out of a region of 28 million people, just an estimated 16,100 low-income people commute to work via car in Lower Manhattan, according to the MTA."
Probably easier to find a way to meet the needs of 16k exceptions. And having a safe fast public transit system, which the connection charge funds, is part of that.
(Hi, Sean! Hope you're well!)
Hopefully this money goes to policing the subway too, people have a lot of valid safety concerns leading them to take their car or a cab. In India, you have to pass through a metal detector to ride the metro. It seems like in US, we are trending towards needing to do the same thing.
Fear can be driven by only a few extreme examples that get a lot of coverage, meanwhile a lot of the time it would be much more likely to be concerned for the likelihood you'll get into a terrible car accident.
I'd doubtful that there's some sufficient level of policing that would make fearful people change their mind, because they're not jsut overcoming what they perceive to be extreme risk, but also overcome what they perceive to be very comfortable travel. Much like how to lose weight, you can't just go and do a bicep curl once in a while, you have to totally change your diet and habits for the long-term.
Hopefully this money goes to policing the subway too, people have a lot of valid safety concerns leading them to take their car or a cab. In India, you have to pass through a metal detector to ride the metro. It seems like in US, we are trending towards needing to do the same thing.
So rich people (who really do not care about few dollars) will be able to drive to downtown just for fun. while poor people who truly need to come to downtown by car will struggle. This is an unfortunate reality of life: wealth equates to more available time.
NYC, and Manhattan specifically, is one of the rare places in the country where having a car is almost virtually unnecessary. In downtown, cars are already playthings of the rich: Just parking the car during peak hours can run you hundreds dollars of per month. The core of NYC has walkable infrastructure and an amazing public transportation infrastructure (at least compared to much of the rest of the country). For th…
As long as you are okay with spending all your time in the city.
The medium to long distance public transport for going out of the city is horrible.
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No but their drivers can pay more thus increasing revenue for public transit, like income all taxes should be progressive :)
From the article: "Drivers who make less than $50,000 a year or are enrolled in certain government aid programs will get 25% discounts after their first 10 trips every month. Trucks and other vehicles will get 50% discounts during overnight hours."
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In the city, especially downtown its basically not free anywhere. It's always metered. Only free at nights and weekends
Maybe I'm oblivious to them, but I don't think I've seen meters in Soho/Chinatown/LES and I definitely don't remember them in the East Village. Are they more in the Tribeca/Fidi area?