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Computers aren’t human. Software isn’t people.
Define people. Or more specifically, define what make them special.
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MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation
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A flood of garbage film/music has always existed, we just don't remember it because its uninteresting. However, I think modern rec algorithms (like the Netflix home page) are recommending more mediocre stuff than the old system, and the streaming boom did produce an abnormal glut of junk. Anyway I think AI is going to spawn a music remixing/game modding/tv extending renaissance. They perform much better when pointing…
I won’t speak to music, as I listen to a lot of stuff, enough to know there is good stuff out there being made. But for movies and TV? Where do I find the good stuff? It seems Hollywood is creatively bankrupt and just milking people off boring franchises and cheap nostalgia through crappy remakes and sequels. My eyes rolled to the back of my head when I saw an ad for a show called “how I met your father” on Hulu.
I don't know what you like, but "Prestige TV" seems to be where writers, directors, and actors wanting to do something other than another retread from some studio's IP backlog, end up.
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You are getting older. Every generation thinks the same, that media is getting worse, discounting the survivorship bias that occurs when they look back on their favorite music and discarding all of the bad music that was present back then.
This is no doubt true, but there are a number of studies which suggest that, at least in the case of music, things really have gotten rather worse over the last two decades, thanks to corporatization and consolidation of the production model.
I'm sure you can come up with metrics by which any given period of music was 'worse' than the one before.
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It's an artform so its natural for a composer to have the same reaction as a painter would to Stable Diffusion for example. That being said - it's happening, and nothings going to stop it regardless of which side of the fence people sit on.
You make it sound like some force of nature is causing this to occur. These things exist because people are making them, despite there no longer being a healthy reason for doing so. (I’m not saying there’s reason for AI development in general to stop, but these generative things that are designed to slot neatly into the role of human artists specifically have no reason to be developed further beyond proving it was po…
Humans creating and sharing new technologies (and ideas, and works of art, etc.) across societies _is_ a force of nature.
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#115The drum and bass is genuinely amazing! Wow.
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#116Maybe I'm just getting older but I feel like the quality of both music and film has seriously declined over the last 5-10 years. Maybe the good stuff is still out there but lost in a sea of average garbage that has surfaced to the top. Something tells me AI isn't going to rescue us either. I just sampled a bunch of these generated tracks and they immediately remind me of the average, mediocre, soul-lacking content th…
Counterexample: https://on.soundcloud.com/d6rX9goHHrSH3sQY9 I agree with you. When gwern investigated AI folk music in 2019, I realized it could generate a wonderful variety of music, full of soul. Be sure to listen to several tracks before making up your mind. My favorite is “crossing the channel”, since I think GPT made a mistake at the beginning, and then generated the most reasonable sounding not-mistake, which t…
Where in your gwern link is the input format being crucial discussed? I couldn't find it.
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#117I don’t understand what’s motivating certain types of people to continue working on these types of AI practical implementation projects. There’s nothing good for the world this (type of AI in particular) will offer. Maybe someone will say this will let people who aren’t musicians express themselves by creating music. That’s not true. It’s as true as hiring a musician to make a song for you, given a description. And n…
Let's say that ebooks now include metadata for soundtrack generation as you read them. Something like this model generates it real time based on the users reading speed etc. That'd be pretty cool for example.
That does sound cool, but you don’t need a purely generative AI to do this. Dealing with a reader who jumps around, re-reads paragraphs, flips back a few pages for a moment, etc. in a coherent way seems like the more difficult and interesting problem.
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#118I'm just weirded about the fact that conversation about something AS EPIC AS THIS is so boring and rudderless here on hacker news of all places. I mean like YESTERDAY I did not have this superpower to summon something as majestic as say https://fb.watch/l4ssOD40M4/ with a simple 'A quirky and skronky Aphex twin sample that just hits you' Edits: I woke up to this news delivered from Yann Lecun himself in the morning o…
that's cool but also sounds nothing like aphex twin. sort of four tet-ish maybe
Eh, could fit into a busier "Acrid avid jam shred", I think
Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation
#119I don’t understand what’s motivating certain types of people to continue working on these types of AI practical implementation projects. There’s nothing good for the world this (type of AI in particular) will offer. Maybe someone will say this will let people who aren’t musicians express themselves by creating music. That’s not true. It’s as true as hiring a musician to make a song for you, given a description. And n…
> Maybe someone will say this will let people who aren’t musicians express themselves by creating music. I'd say it lets me, a non-musician, create generic tracks for other projects that need music, but don't need the Lord of the Rings soundtrack. If you want the insane soundtrack, you still need an artist, as this project demonstrates.
How will we still have artists skilled enough to compose Lord of the Rings soundtrack, if they never get to work on lesser pieces to develop?
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#120I may as a composer be biased but AI "generating" music is just sad. The hypocrisy is that musicians have been suing each other for intellectual property reasons, while this thing is being trained on everyone's music. The law should catch up on this. I get that it's going to improve but for now it's also just elevator/supermarket music.
I don't necessarily disagree that laws should be updated, but I don't get why you used the term 'hypocrisy'?
Surely the musicians suing each other aren't the ones that are now planning on training an AI on other people's music?