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MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"That being said - it's happening, and nothings going to stop it" Well, the European Union is already working on a legal framework for AI. It happened with GDPR and it will happen again.

Sure, but that's not going to stop it.

I don't see why not

Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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I'm just weirded about the fact that conversation about something AS EPIC AS THIS is so boring and rudderless here on hacker news of all places. I mean like YESTERDAY I did not have this superpower to summon something as majestic as say https://fb.watch/l4ssOD40M4/ with a simple 'A quirky and skronky Aphex twin sample that just hits you' Edits: I woke up to this news delivered from Yann Lecun himself in the morning o…

Writing about music is like dancing about architecture

Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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I used MusicGen yesterday to create 50 songs or so. Three of them sound pretty good [1][2][3]. MusicGen is definitely the best of four models of the presentation. I used the prompts differently than the article and i think i got better results. Suppose there is way to measure cardio beats or electricity spikes on the brain, and we configure the machine to generate music to increase cardio beats, or decrease them, or…

Those three are pretty nice, but I’d say they are only a starting point, an inspiration, for creating a good song out of those themes. You are probably getting downvoted for your second paragraph which is a bit out there.

Err, yeah maybe a little bit out there.

Yes of course they are the starting point, a good musician may take some samples and transform a music generation to a better song for sure. Some artists state that a painting is never complete, or a song is never complete. There is always room for innovation.

The prompts i used, referenced real songwriters, and the model seems to know their songs. The article does not prompt it that way. So i guess there may be a little bit of IP infringement, but we need that, only for the first bunch. Next models will be trained on the best generations of previous models.

Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are getting older. Every generation thinks the same, that media is getting worse, discounting the survivorship bias that occurs when they look back on their favorite music and discarding all of the bad music that was present back then.

Society is more unhealthy, people are dying sooner, and there are more broken families than decades ago. So we might be right for once!

Can you provide some sources? Last time I looked into statistics on these topics I found the opposite to be true.

The brothers Rosling have a nice talk about how all the big stats are improving globally (gender equality, education, health, extreme poverty, life expectation)

https://youtu.be/Sm5xF-UYgdg

Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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I'm just weirded about the fact that conversation about something AS EPIC AS THIS is so boring and rudderless here on hacker news of all places. I mean like YESTERDAY I did not have this superpower to summon something as majestic as say https://fb.watch/l4ssOD40M4/ with a simple 'A quirky and skronky Aphex twin sample that just hits you' Edits: I woke up to this news delivered from Yann Lecun himself in the morning o…

that's cool but also sounds nothing like aphex twin. sort of four tet-ish maybe

Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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I may as a composer be biased but AI "generating" music is just sad. The hypocrisy is that musicians have been suing each other for intellectual property reasons, while this thing is being trained on everyone's music. The law should catch up on this. I get that it's going to improve but for now it's also just elevator/supermarket music.

As a music writer, I welcome ai. It gives me more ideas to steal.

Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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Maybe I'm just getting older but I feel like the quality of both music and film has seriously declined over the last 5-10 years. Maybe the good stuff is still out there but lost in a sea of average garbage that has surfaced to the top. Something tells me AI isn't going to rescue us either. I just sampled a bunch of these generated tracks and they immediately remind me of the average, mediocre, soul-lacking content th…

It’s not just you; pop music compositions with key changes that add complexity have all but vanished since the early 00s: https://flowingdata.com/2022/11/22/decline-of-key-changes-in...

Automation tools and fine grained computed metrics have rounded off the edges of emotional experiences. See Bobby Kotick about taking the fun out of games: https://www.escapistmagazine.com/bobby-kotick-wants-to-take-...

Him saying that is around the time the music compositions start becoming similar. The mentality was not constrained to games.

Nothing is allowed to be it’s own thing anymore. It has to be hypernormalized to have enough reach a billionaire CEO can profit from.

MBA-ification of reality.

Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"That being said - it's happening, and nothings going to stop it" Well, the European Union is already working on a legal framework for AI. It happened with GDPR and it will happen again.

GDPR has a severely muted effect because Americans are still doing the same things they were before. It'll be even more ineffectual for AI. Nearly all AI research you hear about is being done in the United States. European regulations will only stop Europeans from using it, but you won't be able to escape it anyway because of how much American culture is continuously imported into Europe. Meanwhile, the reverse is al…

That's implementation details. It could be the case that no art produced in the EU can be used as training data (or similar), not necessarily that EU AI models are forbidden from being trained on art. I find the former case the most probable.
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