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Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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Post by layer8 »

emporas wrote: post #55

I used MusicGen yesterday to create 50 songs or so. Three of them sound pretty good [1][2][3]. MusicGen is definitely the best of four models of the presentation. I used the prompts differently than the article and i think i got better results. Suppose there is way to measure cardio beats or electricity spikes on the brain, and we configure the machine to generate music to increase cardio beats, or decrease them, or…

Those three are pretty nice, but I’d say they are only a starting point, an inspiration, for creating a good song out of those themes.

You are probably getting downvoted for your second paragraph which is a bit out there.

Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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Post by tumult »

wendyshu wrote: post #42
ddmichael wrote: post #14

I may as a composer be biased but AI "generating" music is just sad. The hypocrisy is that musicians have been suing each other for intellectual property reasons, while this thing is being trained on everyone's music. The law should catch up on this. I get that it's going to improve but for now it's also just elevator/supermarket music.

Musicians are trained on everyone's music too

Computers aren’t human. Software isn’t people.

Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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Post by satvikpendem »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #59
satvikpendem wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are getting older. Every generation thinks the same, that media is getting worse, discounting the survivorship bias that occurs when they look back on their favorite music and discarding all of the bad music that was present back then.

Society is more unhealthy, people are dying sooner, and there are more broken families than decades ago. So we might be right for once!

Sources on these? Society has been far better than 100 years ago. And broken families? Or people marrying early due to societal pressure and not being able to divorce back then (whether legally or societally), who are now finally able to do so. The divorce rate is actually going down simply because people are marrying when they want to, not when society pressures them to.

Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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Post by jsheard »

bottlepalm wrote: post #40

(and now for the rare take that isn't your typical cynical/jaded internet comment) Wow this is more than good enough to use for background music in video games, stores, commercials, etc.. You really could have super dynamic music in a video game for instance that changes based on the time of day, environment, situation, mood, etc.. all combined. Combine it with a LLM DJ and you could get some fun radio stations.

> You really could have super dynamic music in a video game for instance that changes based on the time of day, environment, situation, mood, etc.. all combined.

Games can and do already do this, dynamic sequencing of music from a pool of stems has been common practice for a while. Maybe this could let you do it cheaper, and AI could go more granular by creating new stems on the fly, but the onus is still on the AI developers to show something which hits as hard as someone like Mick Gordons dynamic compositions.

Infinite variety is of little value if the infinite space is full of infinitely boring, uninspired content.

Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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Post by electroly »

ddmichael wrote: post #48
esskay wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's an artform so its natural for a composer to have the same reaction as a painter would to Stable Diffusion for example. That being said - it's happening, and nothings going to stop it regardless of which side of the fence people sit on.

"That being said - it's happening, and nothings going to stop it" Well, the European Union is already working on a legal framework for AI. It happened with GDPR and it will happen again.

GDPR has a severely muted effect because Americans are still doing the same things they were before. It'll be even more ineffectual for AI. Nearly all AI research you hear about is being done in the United States. European regulations will only stop Europeans from using it, but you won't be able to escape it anyway because of how much American culture is continuously imported into Europe. Meanwhile, the reverse is almost completely not true; very little European culture makes it into American culture. This will just kneecap European creators and companies. I wish Europe the best of luck with this.

Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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Post by reducesuffering »

SeanLuke wrote: post #24
satvikpendem wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are getting older. Every generation thinks the same, that media is getting worse, discounting the survivorship bias that occurs when they look back on their favorite music and discarding all of the bad music that was present back then.

This is no doubt true, but there are a number of studies which suggest that, at least in the case of music, things really have gotten rather worse over the last two decades, thanks to corporatization and consolidation of the production model.

There are more bedroom indie music producers than ever. EDM and "rap" are better than ever with many many good artists to choose from. One of the biggest breakout rap artist right now was just a random 20 year old working with other random bedroom producers just a couple years ago.

Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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Post by djur »

SeanLuke wrote: post #24
satvikpendem wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are getting older. Every generation thinks the same, that media is getting worse, discounting the survivorship bias that occurs when they look back on their favorite music and discarding all of the bad music that was present back then.

This is no doubt true, but there are a number of studies which suggest that, at least in the case of music, things really have gotten rather worse over the last two decades, thanks to corporatization and consolidation of the production model.

The research on this topic that I'm aware of fails to account for the fact that the top 40/100 lists are less representative of what people are actually listening to than they used to be. If Drake can drop an album and have every song on it chart on the Hot 100 for a week or two, that's going to influence the analysis. That simply wasn't possible before music downloads/streaming. You can see the impact on the chart records -- artists from the past decade dominate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Billboard_Hot_100_char...

ETA: And "worse" in these studies tends to be defined in terms of measurable qualities where contemporary pop music most differs from "classical" music.

Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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Post by _sys49152 »

taude wrote: post #38
rubicon33 wrote: post #7

Maybe I'm just getting older but I feel like the quality of both music and film has seriously declined over the last 5-10 years. Maybe the good stuff is still out there but lost in a sea of average garbage that has surfaced to the top. Something tells me AI isn't going to rescue us either. I just sampled a bunch of these generated tracks and they immediately remind me of the average, mediocre, soul-lacking content th…

This is why I paid extra for services like Tidal and Roon. Their music recommendations are just better than any AI-driven stuff. Need actually human experts to curate playlists and such. I feel like the alg-based stuff is just a race to the middle.

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Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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Post by InCityDreams »

rubicon33 wrote: post #7

Maybe I'm just getting older but I feel like the quality of both music and film has seriously declined over the last 5-10 years. Maybe the good stuff is still out there but lost in a sea of average garbage that has surfaced to the top. Something tells me AI isn't going to rescue us either. I just sampled a bunch of these generated tracks and they immediately remind me of the average, mediocre, soul-lacking content th…

You're getting older. I'm 62 and moving air always inspires me. The shit my children listen to annoys me as much as the shit I listened to that annoyed my parents.
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