Where are the performance per watt numbers? Anyone can get the performance crown by having an unlimited energy budget. Performance per watt is much more valuable in data centers (TCO) and consumer devices (battery life).
Apple M2 Ultra SoC isn’t faster than AMD and Intel last year desktop CPUs
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#22Re: Apple M2 Ultra SoC isn’t faster than AMD and Intel last year desktop CPUs
#23Where are the performance per watt numbers? Anyone can get the performance crown by having an unlimited energy budget. Performance per watt is much more valuable in data centers (TCO) and consumer devices (battery life).
Not really. No.
> Performance per watt is much more valuable in data centers
Assuming performance can be combined.
You can't get the same performances of an Nvidia RTX 4080 using 2 M2
Re: Apple M2 Ultra SoC isn’t faster than AMD and Intel last year desktop CPUs
#24Re: Apple M2 Ultra SoC isn’t faster than AMD and Intel last year desktop CPUs
#25Where are the performance per watt numbers? Anyone can get the performance crown by having an unlimited energy budget. Performance per watt is much more valuable in data centers (TCO) and consumer devices (battery life).
For me, Desktop use is almost perfect on Apple due to battery life and perf but professional use is much better on Intel/AMD+NVidia. Also you could get much more perf for $ on such machines
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#26This and the introduction of the new slower less expandable - at least with respect to GPUs and memory - is indicative that it was a mistake for Apple to completely transition to ARM and should have kept high end options on Intel until they had a better GPU story to tell. They already had the Mac Studio, they could have kept the Mac Pro on Intel.
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#2750% slower than the absolute best of class NVIDIA discrete GPU offering that consumes massively more wattage is hardly a damning statement.
The best case this article can make is that if you need to play the latest game or do intense ML stuff you probably want NVIDIA, but that's the same as it ever was.
Re: Apple M2 Ultra SoC isn’t faster than AMD and Intel last year desktop CPUs
#28This and the introduction of the new slower less expandable - at least with respect to GPUs and memory - is indicative that it was a mistake for Apple to completely transition to ARM and should have kept high end options on Intel until they had a better GPU story to tell. They already had the Mac Studio, they could have kept the Mac Pro on Intel.
Re: Apple M2 Ultra SoC isn’t faster than AMD and Intel last year desktop CPUs
#29Ahhaha, Intel's TDP is 2-4 times bigger under full load (and I guess ~10-15x under moderate load) while having negligible perf advantage over M2. The author can not be serious.
Never been a problem, even when Intel TDP was 20x worse than today.
EDIT: the author forgot that the tested system is an M2 Ultra a desktop class system with a TDP of 90 watts
The i9-13900T and i7-13700T come in at a max turbo power of just 106W
which is just 1.2x