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Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by doublerabbit »

DeepPhilosopher wrote: post #104
DiabloD3 wrote: post #17

HN might as well just run the headline that Reddit is shutting down permanently. All the major subs are either temporarily or permanently shutting down in protest. Do we have a federated Mastodon-esque system to replace Reddit yet? Its the only way to ensure the community survives at this point; Reddit leadership has already proven they only wish to harm both shareholders and the community at large under the guise of…

"Do we have a federated Mastodon-esque system to replace Reddit yet?" Yes. It's called Lemmy. https://join-lemmy.org Just found out about it today.

> install from Scratch

> These instructions are written for Ubuntu 20.04.

I use FreeBSD and no link to the source anywhere within the manual..

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by nunez »

dejawu wrote: post #244

A lot has been written about how Reddit should/deserves to die, but not much has been said about what a loss of a community it will be. Besides providing amusement, Reddit is the reason I'm a better programmer, partner, and person today. Reddit taught me things that my school never did but should have. It's the only social media I can say that about. I'm sure I'm far from the only person out there with this kind of s…

Reddit has done the same for me. I learned life stuff on there that I would have never learned anywhere else. It's a real shame to see it turn into shambles like this.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

SauciestGNU wrote: post #282
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Has happened many times before. Do you have examples, specifically when a subreddit went dark in protest and Reddit replaced the mods?

I recall one popular but controversial subreddit's founder (think it was KotakuInAction) shut down the subreddit because he didn't like what it had become, and the admins demodded him and gave the sub to its other mods.

That's a pretty different case, and exactly why I asked the question.

I have heard of cases where essentially a mod went on a power trip/tantrum and wanted to shut down a subreddit, but that behavior specifically angered the vast majority of subscribers to that subreddit. I think the optics and reality of that are very different from a subreddit shutting down to protest the API changes (in some cases, subreddits held polls).

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by antifa »

valine wrote: post #22

There’s a small but real chance that this movement turns into a mass exodus from reddit. Mismanagement can absolutely kill social media companies, and when it happens it happens fast. Take the mass exodus from FreeNode as an example. The thing to watch for is if the admins take control of any major subreddits. That’s what killed FreeNode.

Most existing alternatives can't handle the 10000x user growth. They'll be down for enough weeks that reddit will be able to wait out the exodus's momentum if they tried.

Even if that wasn't the primary blocker, most alternatives exist to host primarily politically partisan communities.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by LordShredda »

doublerabbit wrote: post #326
floxy wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whippersnappers and their dubya-dubya-dubya's. Reddit is nothing but a glorified Usenet!

And the internet is nothing more then a digital version of a book ;)

I wish books didnt insult me for liking other books

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by not2b »

charcircuit wrote: post #276
not2b wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems they might be running afoul of the ADA if they do this and have no usable solution for the blind.

Screen readers. Reddit is mostly text and image content. Computer vision has gotten incredibly good at understanding images. Just take a look at models like GPT-4 and Segment Anything Model.

I am no expert, but the /r/blind people appear to disagree about whether this is adequate, they evidently think a screen reader for the web site or the Reddit app is much worse than the apps they are currently using.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by hsdropout »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #228
mjr00 wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But I'd just add there is a pretty major difference between "temporarily" and "permanently". Major kudos to r/ProgrammerHumor and other subs that are doing it right - saying they will be shutting down indefinitely unless Reddit changes their stance. A permanent closure of a popular sub is 100% going to lead to Reddit declaring the sub abandoned, replacing the mod team, and reopening. Has happened many times before.…

> Has happened many times before. Do you have examples, specifically when a subreddit went dark in protest and Reddit replaced the mods?

Didn't the satire version of r/onlyfans have a similar story?

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by the_third_wave »

tsunamifury wrote: post #293
tester457 wrote: post #249

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I dislike Mastodon too, but what changes do you think Mastodon and Lemmy need to be a viable option?

Twitters real issue is that it’s dated. Have you seen modern social networks? They are highly visual and much more stimulating for better or worse. Copying Twitter might as well be like copying a 1920s radio for how outdated it is. Complete paradigm shift since then with messaging and video.

Not all change is good, progress for progress' sake is an example of this. The more "visual and much more stimulating" nature of those "modern social networks" stands to "dated" mostly text-based communications as "high sugar deep fried processed" food stands towards "traditional" food made with fresh ingredients. Sure, the kids will gorge themselves on it but they'll end up as obese adults suffering from low insulin sensitivity a.k.a. diabetes type 2. Twitter itself already resembles a Twinkie compared to the home-cooked lunch served by NNTP so it is not as if copying the Twitter model is something to aim for.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by tsunamifury »

the_third_wave wrote: post #339
tsunamifury wrote: post #293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitters real issue is that it’s dated. Have you seen modern social networks? They are highly visual and much more stimulating for better or worse. Copying Twitter might as well be like copying a 1920s radio for how outdated it is. Complete paradigm shift since then with messaging and video.

Not all change is good, progress for progress' sake is an example of this. The more "visual and much more stimulating" nature of those "modern social networks" stands to "dated" mostly text-based communications as "high sugar deep fried processed" food stands towards "traditional" food made with fresh ingredients. Sure, the kids will gorge themselves on it but they'll end up as obese adults suffering from low insulin…

Have you tried getting user growth with this lecture?
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