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Re: The Last Egg

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Post by bitdivision »

crazygringo wrote: post #178
reillyse wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope. American milk is pasteurized to a much higher temp. It lasts way longer. Irish goes off in days, US milk will last a month in the fridge. The extra pasteurization effects the taste and flavor.

I can't find any evidence to support that. High-Temperature, Short-Time (HSTS) Pasteurization appears to be the standard in both Ireland [1] and the US [2] -- 71.7°C / 161°F for 15 seconds. And I can tell you from personal experience that US milk goes bad in days as well, and has for decades. I don't know where you're getting the idea that it lasts a month in the fridge. There are real differences in some foods betwe…

I also looked into this and couldn't find any reliable information on what pasteurisation method was actually used in the UK.

I did find that US allows the use of hormones to increase milk production. Possibly that's a factor? But very difficult to tell.

Re: The Last Egg

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Post by bitdivision »

globular-toast wrote: post #175
bitdivision wrote: post #31

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I'm surprised you can't tell the difference between UHT and regular milk. I've tried a few brands in the UK, and there's a clear difference in tea / coffee, and it's particularly marked if you're drinking milk on its own. Maybe the UK is lagging behind on UHT? Or I'm just buying the wrong brand.

I live in the UK and always thought UHT milk was horrible. Recently I spent some time in Spain where all the milk is UHT (presumably because of the climate). At some point I realised I couldn't tell the difference, or at least it wasn't horrible. However, I was only consuming it heated up, like in a café con leche . Maybe that's why GP can't taste the difference?

Could be! I imagine I also notice the difference because I usually use UHT when I've run out of fresh milk. So the taste of coffee with fresh milk is pretty recent, vs travelling to another country.

I'm sure if I was using UHT every day I'd start to forget the difference.

Re: The Last Egg

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Post by JohnMakin »

deanCommie wrote: post #52
JohnMakin wrote: post #16

And people think we're gonna colonize mars. We can't even colonize the south pole, a much more hospitable environment.

Well, we're going to have to colonize mars at one point. That's not a debate. We can't survive as a species with all our eggs in one basket (pun intended, given the context) where a single rock flying through space can wipe out all the gains of our civilization. In the long term, this will require planetary-scale terraforming. In the short term, this will require seasonal unmanned supply drops and so the experience w…

> Well, we're going to have to colonize mars at one point. That's not a debate.

I don't know why people say this like it's a fact. It'd be cheaper to fix the planet. Even if it weren't, the moon is many magnitudes closer. Also, "terraforming" mars isn't even possible. Mars has no magnetosphere - if you managed to create an atmosphere at all, it would be promptly blown away by solar winds and radiation.

Re: The Last Egg

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Post by crazygringo »

bitdivision wrote: post #181
crazygringo wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't find any evidence to support that. High-Temperature, Short-Time (HSTS) Pasteurization appears to be the standard in both Ireland [1] and the US [2] -- 71.7°C / 161°F for 15 seconds. And I can tell you from personal experience that US milk goes bad in days as well, and has for decades. I don't know where you're getting the idea that it lasts a month in the fridge. There are real differences in some foods betwe…

I also looked into this and couldn't find any reliable information on what pasteurisation method was actually used in the UK. I did find that US allows the use of hormones to increase milk production. Possibly that's a factor? But very difficult to tell.

I can say in my personal experience that fresh whole milk in Europe and the US tastes the same.

I really don't know why the original poster claimed otherwise. Maybe it's just an urban legend in parts of Europe or something.

Re: The Last Egg

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Post by [deleted] »

AlbertCory wrote: post #96
shepherdjerred wrote: post #83

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Well, I personally would be interested to see the talk/learn more about those in tech who have gone to the pole.

well, since someone else named him (and btw, I just thought it was rude, that's all): I think this is the talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBaQtsft2bM

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Re: The Last Egg

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Post by fragmede »

AlbertCory wrote: post #96
shepherdjerred wrote: post #83

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Well, I personally would be interested to see the talk/learn more about those in tech who have gone to the pole.

well, since someone else named him (and btw, I just thought it was rude, that's all): I think this is the talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBaQtsft2bM

Glad you're being conscencious but why would it be rude to name somebody who wants to share their amazing experience? In fact, I think in today's world or would be rude not to promote their name and story link to their video.

Re: The Last Egg

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Post by jollyllama »

Paul_S wrote: post #165

Why can't they keep chicken??? Chicken need water and layers pellets (which store fine). You get fresh eggs every day and free manure to use in your greenhouse! I really don't understand why they don't do it.

Interesting idea but there might be some issues.

I think this would dramatically increase ventilation needs. How many people are on base? Remember, you're not even getting 1 egg per chicken per day. At that point, you're in the chicken farming business, not the science base business.

Also, how long would the chickens last with zero exposure to natural sunlight and cramped conditions? It could be hard on them.

Re: The Last Egg

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Post by MagicMoonlight »

earthscienceman wrote: post #76
honkycat wrote: post #59

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Reading this I am picturing a blowing blizzard and massive tractors crawling over the barren landscape. INTENSE!

It's both intense and the most boring thing you could imagine. Picture day after day in a tractor traveling across a white landscape with another tractor in front and another tractor behind. I have only traveled such things by snowmobile, but I've befriended a few of the traverse folks in Greenland and Antarctica and they described it as "intensely exhilarating and extremely boring".

One of those classic stressful but boring jobs. Nothing around you for a thousand miles and it takes 50 days but at any point you could fall into a hole and die.

Re: The Last Egg

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Post by MagicMoonlight »

jollyllama wrote: post #187
Paul_S wrote: post #165

Why can't they keep chicken??? Chicken need water and layers pellets (which store fine). You get fresh eggs every day and free manure to use in your greenhouse! I really don't understand why they don't do it.

Interesting idea but there might be some issues. I think this would dramatically increase ventilation needs. How many people are on base? Remember, you're not even getting 1 egg per chicken per day. At that point, you're in the chicken farming business, not the science base business. Also, how long would the chickens last with zero exposure to natural sunlight and cramped conditions? It could be hard on them.

That’s literally what a factory farm is so there’s no issue with that.
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