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Making a single bolt for an FL car

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Re: Making a single bolt for an FL car

#11
> [...] racing machine that only borderline-superhumans can withstand the g's of.

Suggestion: Make cockpits tilt inwards. Sideways-g becomes down-g. Much more pleasurable ride. If the driver is really the limit, and not the added mass for this.

It's probably against the rules though.

Re: Making a single bolt for an FL car

#12
As a sponsor of Formula 3, I got to visit a Formula 3 / Formula 2 team yesterday and have to say, the racing sport it just insane. The amount of knowledge and effort and money it takes for a team to operate, just below break-even, it's on another level. I think racing must have some of the most passionate people in any industry.

Also a fun fact on one of the businessmodels in racing: the team operates like a specialized car-rental service. They do everything, except drive. The driver has to rent the seat for a season, this is where the team makes money.

Then there's 2 or 3 drivers. Of these, one is talented, the others are there for their funds.

Re: Making a single bolt for an FL car

#14

> [...] racing machine that only borderline-superhumans can withstand the g's of. Suggestion: Make cockpits tilt inwards. Sideways-g becomes down-g. Much more pleasurable ride. If the driver is really the limit, and not the added mass for this. It's probably against the rules though.

Before regulations come into play the added weight and space requirements for the swivel will make your car unusable, the added complexity will make the car unreliable, the weight distribution change will make the car unpredictable.

Then the swivel will likely be illegal because it’ll lacks the integrity necessary to be part of the survival cell unless it’s ridiculous (and paragraph 1 is even worse), and its disintegration would have a very high likelihood of killing the pilot, and harming spectators. If you swivel from the outside of the survival cell you now need even more hardware to swivel the entire cell, which means you need more structure to hold the car together (under up to 9G race loads) around the swivel, thus making paragraph 1 yet again worse, as you’ll have yet more space requirements, and weight distribution changes.

Also it’ll likely fail on back to back turns (e.g. Istanbul’s 12, 13, 14 or Spa’s bus stop chicane).

Re: Making a single bolt for an FL car

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Insane? I've worked in F1, and seeing making this bolt doesn't sound extraordinaire. It's rather normal engineering technology. There are far more interesting, extremely expensive, specialized engineering methods in F1.

Well, I think most bolts don't go through that extensive QA process in general But yeah I agree this one is your run of the mill engineering, if only done for a part that normally doesn't see such testing (maybe in Aerospace and military applications) It seems it's part of the suspension so it would be natural to be a part that has tighter tolerances

"Run of the mill"…was that a pun?

Re: Making a single bolt for an FL car

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post #2

Insane? I've worked in F1, and seeing making this bolt doesn't sound extraordinaire. It's rather normal engineering technology. There are far more interesting, extremely expensive, specialized engineering methods in F1.

Don't leave us hanging like that. Would you mind sharing an example?

Different commenter but one such example is how for years they were pushing the limit on how many holes could be drilled into a brake disc:

https://www.brembo.com/en/company/news/20-years-f1-brake-dis...

Re: Making a single bolt for an FL car

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post #12

As a sponsor of Formula 3, I got to visit a Formula 3 / Formula 2 team yesterday and have to say, the racing sport it just insane. The amount of knowledge and effort and money it takes for a team to operate, just below break-even, it's on another level. I think racing must have some of the most passionate people in any industry. Also a fun fact on one of the businessmodels in racing: the team operates like a speciali…

And those drivers are called „paydrivers” because they pay for having the seat to sit in.

Re: Making a single bolt for an FL car

#19
post #12

As a sponsor of Formula 3, I got to visit a Formula 3 / Formula 2 team yesterday and have to say, the racing sport it just insane. The amount of knowledge and effort and money it takes for a team to operate, just below break-even, it's on another level. I think racing must have some of the most passionate people in any industry. Also a fun fact on one of the businessmodels in racing: the team operates like a speciali…

There is often a popular resentment of "pay drivers" for not being up to the standards of top driver talent. But the fact is that anything but the top levels of the sport would not exist without their involvement. Motorsports is an incredibly expensive venture.
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