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Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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> Reddit is extremely dependent on the goodwill of the community Are they? Assuming they all go dark for 48 hours, then come back online, and business continues as usual... wouldn't that somewhat prove that Reddit doesn't have to worry too much? What if certain subreddits go dark for extended amounts of times, multiple weeks, maybe even a month. And then new copycat subreddits pop up, what do you think will happen? R…

I wonder how all the various subreddits will work without their moderators. If moderators stop doing their jobs I have a feeling many subreddits will devolve into chaos - spam, off topic posts, crazy people posting the most vile and repulsive shit, … etc.

Worth reading the long thread https://twitter.com/SA__moment/status/1587588321777451008

If they enable the subreddits without moderation, they'll die very soon. They really need moderation and users often don't realise how much crap they're protected from until it's too late.

Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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I'm just appalled that these people continue to provide free labour to Reddit and that Reddit encourages this arrangement. The "dang" model where the moderators get paid a salary for their work seems the only reasonable and fair way to go. Having mods work for free is effectively a form of psychological abuse, taking advantage of people's social media addiction for corporate benefit.

The problem that every social media has is that manual moderation does not scale; even with tooling, the major platforms like Facebook employ thousands of content moderators as contractors, a lot in low-wage countries.

Having an army of willing volunteers helps, but it's not good enough because these are unpaid, untrained people without the psychological helplines that professional moderators have. I hope Reddit has good tooling to prevent the volunteers from seeing the worst of it.

That said, I do think that everyone contributing their time to social media like this should get a cut from the revenue; I'm 100% confident Reddit has exact numbers for the value per subreddit and even per post, so they can apply math and give the moderators a percentage of that, and even the posters of good posts.

I mean yeah then you get the problem of reposts and simple copiers, but that's already an issue, it's just that the issue is karma instead of money.

Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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> Reddit is extremely dependent on the goodwill of the community Are they? Assuming they all go dark for 48 hours, then come back online, and business continues as usual... wouldn't that somewhat prove that Reddit doesn't have to worry too much? What if certain subreddits go dark for extended amounts of times, multiple weeks, maybe even a month. And then new copycat subreddits pop up, what do you think will happen? R…

I wonder how all the various subreddits will work without their moderators. If moderators stop doing their jobs I have a feeling many subreddits will devolve into chaos - spam, off topic posts, crazy people posting the most vile and repulsive shit, … etc.

So... it'll become Twitter?

Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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I wonder how all the various subreddits will work without their moderators. If moderators stop doing their jobs I have a feeling many subreddits will devolve into chaos - spam, off topic posts, crazy people posting the most vile and repulsive shit, … etc.

Worth reading the long thread https://twitter.com/SA__moment/status/1587588321777451008 If they enable the subreddits without moderation, they'll die very soon. They really need moderation and users often don't realise how much crap they're protected from until it's too late.

I suspect that would be a far more effective protest, though if successful it may well kill the subreddits. The mods are trying to have their cake and eat it too: make a 'principled stance' without risk to their subreddits. That won't work.

Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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> I own the DocuSign subreddit. You don't own it, you were just either the first person to create the subreddit or someone who has since becomes the longest-serving moderator on it. I'll never understand how camping on a subreddit gives anyone the right to say that they "own" it or gives them more power over everyone else indefinitely. It's a big flaw in Reddit, I think all subreddits should be put up for some kind o…

By this logic, Americans don't own their land, they were there just in time to conquer it. Or I don't own my home, I was just the first person to buy it.

Ownership is indeed a fuzzy concept, but the level of protection afforded to your "ownership" of land in America is orders of magnitude greater than that afforded to moderators or subreddits. If you want to draw an analogy to real property, Reddit is the "owner" of the "land" (subject, as always, to the whims of the state) and the moderator has a licence to reside there.

Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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I actually did quit Twitter and nothing will be able to make me go back there. Principles and all that. But I suspect that the fraction of people that followed through on their statement that they would leave Twitter is super small. I also haven't gone anywhere else and I feel much the better for it.

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Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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The pre-IPO process often involves all kinds of fun short-term profit maximizing activities.

Is it securities fraud if your pre-ipo profit maximization moves cause your user base to relocate, and you didn't disclose that your filings?

Highly likely that one of the risk factors they disclose in their prospectus is that the revenues are highly correllated with active user numbers and traffic and if those things change, revenues will be impacted. Even without this latest drama it would be amazing if they didn't have something like that in there.
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